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"If you received a speeding or red light ticket from a traffic camera case in
Upper East TN and you fought the ticket in court but lost, send me an email
with all your contact information. I would like to talk to you!
Bob King, Attorney
Johnson City TN
"YOU HAVE REALLY SUCCEEDED IN HELPING YOUR COMMUNITY AND STATE BUSINESSES WITH
YOUR SPEED TRAP. I HAVE BEEN COMING TO BRISTOL FROM FLORIDA FOR 6 YEARS, I BUY
PREMIUM TICKETS, STAY AND PAY SALES TAXES TO A HOTEL, BUY GAS AND FOOD AND
ATTEND OTHER EVENTS IN THE AREA AND SPED MORE THAN $800 DOLLARS FOR ONE PERSON. I HAVE BEEN DRIVING FOR MORE THAN 55 YEARS AND NEVER HAD A SPEEDING VIOLATION,
WELL I WILL PROMISE YOU THAT I WILL NEVER AGAIN ENTER OR PASS THROUGH YOUR
STATE FOR ANY REASON, THERE ARE OTHER STATES THAT HAVE THE SAME EVENTS, AND ARE MORE HOSPITABLE, NICE WORK!"
"YOUR POLICE CHIEF SAYS HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND COMPUTERS BUT HIRES A COMPUTER
OPERATED SYSTEM TO DO HIS WORK. HE HAS TO BE THE MOST INCOMPETENT POLICE CHIEF
IN THIS GENERATION WHERE EVERY ONE HAS TO HAVE A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE
COMPUTER GENERATION, EVEN 70 AND 80 YEAR OLD PEOPLE TAKE COURSES FOR FREE AT
CERTAIN PLACES. YOOR CHIEF MUST BE VERY AROGANT AND SELF SERVING TO JUST LAUGH
AT HIS LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT A SIMPLE DUTY TO RENEW A LICENSE, I HOPE HE
REMBERS TO RENEW HIS HOME AND AUTO INSURANCE, AND POLICE VERIFICATIONS. I
COMMEND YOU FOR BRINGING THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC,AND THEY REMEMBER THIS AT
"Lately, when I drive through red lights, I see A flashing light. I don't know
what it is. I'm sure there are others' out there just like me. These lights are unexplained and I wish to report them. Luckly, I know how to fill out a report
with MUFON (Mutual UFO Network). When I went to you're site, I did not see a
link provided to report a ufo sighting. Like I said, I've been seeing flashing
lights lately when I go through red lights. There are probably others' like me
out there who would like to report these flashing light sightings. If you don't mind, could you please provide a link to MUFON.com on your site, as to making
it easier for people like me to report the light sightings. Please consider
what ?I've said. I have provided a link in the e-mail. MAke your site more
friendly for all.
Let's take care of this before someone gets abducted by a flashing light."
"I haven't had a ticket for 45 years. Yes, that's right, 45 years. My message
is short and not so sweet.... I will not be moving to that area, nor will I
travel through that area again. Hope you enjoy my $90!!!! Good bye!!!!!"
1st, thank you so much for buying this site from them and offering as a place
for folks to express their feelings about the way that Bluff City treats its
residents and visitors.
I had the miss fortune of visiting your fine town a couple weeks ago. I am a
very careful and lawful driver, yet today I recieved a ticket in the mail from
the good people of Bluff City, telling me I own them $90 for speeding. Upon a
little internet research I now understand why - they trick drivers by lowering
the speed limit, snapping a picture of the car (who's driving?) and then
raising the speed limit back up to 55 mph - the car in the picture is said to
have been going 56 mph.
I am disinclined to pay this phoney bill. Is there a recomended course of
action? According to the back of the letter, the only way I can protest it is
to do nothing and wait for a court summons (and drive back down from DC?), or
swear and prove that my car was sold or stolen. If I wait for the court
summons will the cost of the ticket go up? Can I send a written statement in
lieu of showing up in court?
Any help/shared experiences would be appreciated.
Keep up the good work!
Here is an interesting article
"the cameras are to make money and not work for it. i live in bluff city. at the
red light. i have went to turn right and almost in a car several times. reason
is. their is no turning lanes their.the other driver blows his horn like i made a mistake.i have told police department about this. they could write alot of
tickets out. as so many people do this . yes the lanes are marked.but they
would have to sit and watch. unless they want to put camera up their.i guess
the other one makes enough money. they say it was to help with the accidents.
yeah right. then why dont they sit and watch for people who make the right and
left turns and the light that are illegal. yes and before i hit one of them . i turn in the right lane.you have two lanes going one way two going the other way not three lanes . but yet you never seen them their writing ticket. and why ,no camera to do the job.money money money. what it looks like to me.just hope they start earing their
money before i get hit..."
"I live in NJ and heard your story on the local news, soon as I got to work I
went straight to the bluff city pd website aka your site, awesome revenge! Lots of good stories, really like the guy in CA that used to be in the IBEW union
and all the e-mails with the lawyer, good stuff. I'm heading through bluff City in August, going to Bristol race where is this camera? Please where is this
camera. Is it on 11W? Thank you and keep the site!!! Mark"
After getting my 56 in a 45 speeding ticket in the mail (actually, my husband
was driving. He's a Federal Police Officer, and a traffic accident
investigator) I was so angry. Thank you for making my day.
I have been posting links regarding this website, the legal fight and other
things on the Bluff City Face Book page:
http://www.facebook.com/search/?post_form_id=d91637e6bb72217feb92b2a764cdf717&q= &init=quick&sid=0.46976827637425905#!/pages/Bluff-City-TN/Bluff-City-TN/1658038 91911?ref=ts&__a=9&ajaxpipe=1
I encourage others to do the same, and to write to the TN legislators about the
damage these cameras are doing to tourism and their local economy."
"Found this bit of news
"It's about safety! "MY A$$"! I hadn't had a ticket in 25 years and travel
Virginia to Johnson City about twice a year. I was coming through Bluff City
with the traffic, when the cars in front of me locked down on their brakes.
If I hadn't
been really alert, I would have plowed into them in the middle of a wide
open 4 lane
highway. I didn't see anything run in front of them and was wondering what
idiots are driving down here. Well, I later found out it was a rare, but
Revenue Beast, that scared them. It seems this Beast is controlled by a
sitting at his desk drinking coffee, eating doughnuts, and playing on the
However, it looks to be a very profitable endeavor for them and China, and
and Australia. A new way to Bastardize the laws for profit, while ignoring
rights. Not that I disrespect Police, I have respect for the ones that
actually work for
a living. I have about 6 friends and family that are police and after asking
their thoughts, it was a unanimous, "These cameras are nothing but a Cash
Later, while in Johnson City, I actually counted 3 vehicles locking down and
into the intersection to avoid a red light ticket. It's obvious these
causing a complete change in peoples reactions, and in fact, CREATING A ROAD
HAZARD. If they want to slow people down, buy a $10,000 police car and park
the median. That would do a lot more, than what at first glance looks like a
sign to reduce speed would do! GOOD JOB Brian!"
"If these private for hire spy cams that these foreign company's are selling our
cites and towns on are such a good thing then why are we not allowed to bring
any video cameras into any court rooms to tape our trials for these citations.
If they were good willed for public safety they would be more worried
about cameras in school zones, work zones and around crack houses so they could
reduce the drug trafficking, but they just cant make enough money chasing the
real thugs and thieves that are stealing everyone blind. Another good point to
make about the speed trap that Bluff City TN is running is follow the money, the mayor and city counsel along with Police chief David Nelson have chosen to allow this foreign owned company the rights to fee grab $250,000 a month from this
community for a good reason. (Follow the Money) Its lining there pockets with
$$$ and loads of free perks like free trips for them and there family's. The
best way to combat this is to request an IRS audit on these individuals and
watch there every move to see where and when they travel and see who's picking
up the tabs for there eats and golf games. Where there's lots of moneys flowing
there's always lots of corruption not far behind. The people of this small town
of 1600 should remember who brought the cameras to there town and driving away
business from there restaurants and stores and giving there town a bad
reputation as Speed Trap TN when election time rolls around for there Mayor and
City Counsel members, and they also appoint the Police Chief to his post. People are just going to have to get there fill of this none sense until they have had
enough and demand there Mayor to take down there speed trap cameras. In the meantime just do what there doing in the rest of the country, tare down those
cameras, and when they put them back, tear them down again, just like a goal
post at a college football game. When it cost more to maintain the system then
it brings in, they will disappear. But better yett, elect new leadership for
your town and put your community back on a positive course for a place people
want to visit instead of avoid. I'm a former law enforcement officer with the
state of TN and these cameras are just plain WRONG an just another form of
taxation, not public safety. Keep up the good work Brian for all of us and you
have our thanks.
"How many people besides me now use alternate routes to get from Bristol to JC?
Though I feel bad for the locally owned businesses in Piney Flats, I'll not be
spending ANY money there.
Thanks to the "Bluff City Ciber Fife", I'll be using the back roads!
"Her is some more ammo. Thank you for the fight you are putting up.
"Great job Brian!!! Where the hell did our 4th Amendment go?! I thought 1984
was bullcrap in school and yet it keeps creeping upon us. Otto"
"My web developer saw your story and forwarded it to me. I'm a traffic
ticket attorney in NY and a run a national site too that deals with traffic
ticket issues. Just thought I'd touch base to let you know I thought the
story was a good one and I wrote a little article summing it up on my
"Let me start by saying, I'm in law enforcement and I say to you, GOOD JOB.? They make $250 K a month on this and they still cut cops.? Electronic radar is all
about money.? If it was safety they would have a cop out there monitoring
traffic and stopping people creating a safety issue.? How can they sight you
when you weren't driving....Stay at it."
"Here's the best revenge ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FREEEEEEEDDOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!
"Thank you for doing this! It's high time someone has stood up to the
establishment on this!
Red light and speed cameras are nothing more than revenue generation by
remote control. If traffic enforcement were truly about public safety,
why is money involved? If a government entity truly wanted to teach you
a lesson, instead of a set fine that affects the poor more than the
rich. (who do you think is more affected by a $200 fine, someone who
makes $7.50/hr or $200,000/year?)
If it were truly about teaching a lesson, they would have you paint a
wall at city hall, or spend a day or two cutting grass with the guys in
the parks dept! NO, IT'S ABOUT MONEY, PLAIN AND SIMPLE! They can't raise
your taxes, so they make it up in other ways. Thank the good lord that
the state passed a law here in Missouri that states a municipality may
only derive so much of their total budget from traffic fines.
It was a serious blow to the small town of Byrne's Mill, who had the
reputation for writing tickets for 1 (yes, ONE) MPH over the posted
They also had a bad reputation as hard asses who would berate and
belittle the people they stopped, hoping to provoke an assault charge!
It got so bad, the citizens had a meeting that included one of our
elected officials. The small hall designed to hold 200 people or so, was
so packed there were nearly 50 people outside! They have since fired
several officers, and replaced them with much more professional acting
officers. The chief is a much better thought of person around here, of
which I am very glad. I know his is not an easy job, but alienating
people only makes it worse. It's a shame it took a response like that
from the people who live and work around here to change things, but
change things we did! Recently, a municipality along one of our
interstates (not really, just a connector highway) was proposing speed
cameras, but the public outcry was so great, he changed his mind, but
did not rule out their use in the future. Even the commander of the
St.Louis County Police spoke out against them! The only acceptable use
of these evil devices should be in construction zones (then ONLY when
people are actually working!) and possibly in areas near schools (only
when school is actually in session!)
As for all of you who are saying "don't speed, no problem", you don't
get it! It's not about that and you know it! It's about generating
revenue in an unethical manner! Yes, I freely admit to exceeding the
speed limit on a daily basis. But it is because I judge what is a safe
velocity to travel by how fast the world goes by, yet when I look down,
I am almost always 5-10 miles over the posted limit. Why?
Am I a lunatic, who cares nothing about my fellow man? Or maybe, just
maybe, the posted limit is TOO LOW! Because when I notice what my
speedometer says, I also notice that I am neither passing or being
passed, just merely going with the flow! Speed limits are almost always
set artificially low, to accommodate drivers of all skill levels, much
akin to many restaurants going light on the salt to please the palates
of the most amount of people,(and of course to make it easier to write
tickets!) Then, there are several stretches of road (2 lanes each
direction, electric signals at nearly all intersections, separated by
concrete wall) where the posted limit can be anywhere between 40-55 MPH!
Why? The road does not change, it does not get narrower, more hilly, or
any other thing that would be a legitimate reason for the change. That
leaves only one other obvious conclusion.......can you guess what that
Please, Citizens of America, contact your senators and representatives
at both the state and federal levels, and oppose any sort of camera
based law enforcement in any way you can! We are all hurting for money
in this economy, and I want my city, county, and state governments to
prosper, but not this way!
Greg. St.Louis MO"
"here a good web site from uk on speed camera destruction i think the
best one was from holland expanding foam pumped into the camera totaly
buggered it. http://www.speedcam.co.uk/welcome.htm "
"In Los Angeles a Camera ticket is around $460 $50 if you need an
extension of 60 days $30 traffic School.
We are afraid to drive lately. The last ticket I've got was at night
time. I entered the intersection on yellow - in the middle of it light
changed to red - camera flushed. (Defective camera people told me). The
Police Department sent me a photo where the light looks red before the
intersection - obviously "digitally" mastered. I called them and the
only remark I got from them was - "I disagree with you" I feel I was
back in a communist country where I came from 26 years ago.
What happens to this country? Where is the care for citizens? I hope you
will do something in Tennessee because I don't think anything will
change in Los Angeles. Lately all they care is about money, money and
more money for the city and for the state from us that we barely can pay
our rent, while they buy furniture for their offices of millions of
"Just wanted to email you to say what a brilliant idea to buy the bluffcitypd
domain! LOVE it! My parents lived in Gray, TN (Boone Lake) for quite a few
years. They were always careful driving through there! We are facing a
similar situation here in Cooper City, Florida where I live. The majority of
our city commissioners want to impose these red light cameras in our city.
It's all about revenue which I didn't realize was such a significant amount
until I read your website.now I see the $$$$ and why most of the city
commissioners are fighting so hard for these cameras!!!! I think it is
just wrong especially because these tickets can be assessed to someone who
may not even be the operator of the automobile! Hopefully the cameras won't
be installed in our city! Again.great job!"
"I read a lot of comments, pros and cons, on the traffic cameras. Are they a
good idea? They do have their uses, sure, but it appears that in this case,
no! The location and the brief reduction in the speed limit alone sounds
like it was designed as a local fund raiser. I personally am not a fan of
the traffic camera simply because it takes the 'human' factor and 'officer
discretion' decision making process out of the equation. Everyone has the
right to face their accuser. but, how do you fight a digital camera? Don't
always be quick to jump on the local coppers, they may not have any input in
the decision to place them there in the first place. (and Yes, I am a cop)."
"Very creative. You are a true American to fight unjust authority."
"I got a nice picture of my truck from this past Memorial Day. I now vow to
call and complain everyday that I see the Bluff City police on their
personal cell phone sitting in a parking lot and yapping away. The thing
that is most disturbing is the 40 dollars adminstative fee. I am now vowing
to be the tick on the back of the dog towards the city of Bluff City. The
complaints will now start coming......Get Ready"
"I am very happy to see you snag their website. Like you, I snagged the Local Electrical Union's website. They even dragged me into court and lost.
If you need a smile, check out www.ibew47.com "
"California police officer here
I dislike traffic cameras immensely. I think they have the potential to be used
illegally and are more money generators than safety devices. I believe they generate accidents as well as preventing them.Frazzled citizens wary of them
can rear end.. strode lights easily temporarily blind even the non violators.
When we as a society need big brother to tell someone they did something wrong
we have lost our humanity.
In the area where I work some of the camera contracts are not being renewed as
the cost outweighs the benefits.
The states burden of proof seems to be watered down here and an erosion of
personal constitutional rights... I have a real problem with the registered
owner getting the cite if they didn't commit the violation
I vote for not using them as ticket generators... now if a city wants to pay for them for enforcement profiles..as to where to put resources... fine"
"Greetings from Russia!
I support your initiative!
i saw your story on yahoo news. i wanted to say great job. I thought it maybe a
good idea for you to put up a forum so people in the area can sign up and post
content to the site. start a discussion kinda of a grass roots movement for
your community to have their say.
"Brian McCrary you are HA-LARIOUS! I love it! The $80 for the domain name
was sooo worth it. Funny, funny stuff!!!
I too must admit, you are my hero!!
Hate the big brother cameras, keep up the good work!
Stephanie from Virginia"
"I think this is great! I also think the police would put camera's every single
place out doors to spy on us all if they could.
This is another example of the police department people sleeping on the job they did not pay the bill so it is now no longer there site I am bookmarking this
page! If you do not pay the electric they shut it off if you do not pay your
probation officer they come get you if you do not pay your web site domain bill anyone else can buy it the moral of the story be careful because in life no
matter how good you are any one can make a mistake.
I never believed people when they told me about all this stuff about a police
state and the government is spying on us and taking more and more rights away I always would think wow these people are crazy they really think our own
government and local area police are working against us.
I NOW MUST ADMIT I WAS WRONG SOME OF THE PEOPLE MAY HAVE BEEN OVER THE TOP ON
THEIR OPINIONS BUT MOST OF THEM WERE RIGHT.
People open your eye's take a look around decide for yourself.
Also what the police and government no longer understand is they work for use
and we are all having problems they need to help us not cause us more problems.
Laws need to be updated some need to be removed and the fines are out of control they should have other ways of letting people pay for the problems like
community service programs for people who can not afford to pay they should
double the time you have to pay due to the bad economic times and find a way to help people solve there issues not just catch them but catch then help them WOW imagine that the government and the police really going out of there way to
help the people I bet the people would then want to help them after all when
some one helps you it makes you feel good and makes you want to return the
"I Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
EAT IT BLUFF CITY PD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HARD!!!!"
Speed traps should be outlawed.....they (police) put these up because they are
cheeper than an officer sitting in his car. Why don't we just put out cardboard cutouts of cops at every corner in town......there cheaper than the real ones."
"To the teacher who wasn't driving there car, usually when a ticket is issued
from an automated machine, there is a way to appeal that you weren't driving
your vehicle. However, I know with the EZ pass system out east (system for
toll automation) the premise is you own the car and are therefor responsible
for its safe and legal operation by the party you lend it to. If I lend the
friend a car and he runs the toll, I get the ticket. I then call the friend up and say you owe me for the ticket and he pays me.
On a side note, this website seems extremely one sided. I understand the anger towards ticketing in any means, I don't like them either. I will say that
every ticket I have ever gotten, I deserved. I would like to see an "officical justification" from this towns pd as to the necessity of these cameras. I'm
sure they had a reason for installing them other than "we need money for the
community." Anyways, that's my piece. Good luck with the website."
"I live west of Wichita Kansas and have many times seen the Sedgwick County
Sherrif sitting inside one of their speed traps. They too trap a lot of
drivers and rack up huge amounts of fines. I think their practice is unfair
and manipulative if we consider that the roads are built for the efficient
movement of automobile traffic and not for the revenue stream of the local
I think it is fair-play that you were able to get the domain that they
willingly let lapse due to their inefficiency. Maybe they will wake up and
manage their 'business' better now.
I also think it is hilarious that you were able to get their domain and see
them quoted in the news article referring to the 'possibility of getting the
domain back...'! I hope they do get their domain back..... after they pay
you a million dollars for it and are required to publish their heart-felt
apology to you on their website!!!!
You Go Guy!!!!! One For The People!!!! YESSSSSSS!!!!"
"I served six years in law enforcement and have some serious concerns with a
lot of the comments that people have made. Not all police are out to get
your money, many do the job because they genuinely care about people. That
having been said, sometimes a community's leaders get greedy and begin to
view their police department as a source of revenue. We had the same
situation where I worked (Marshall County, TN). One of the communities in
my county, Cornersville, decided to put its 4-member force on I-65 so they
could suck the money out of the wallets of people passing through. It got
so bad that the Sheriffs Office had to answer a few calls within the
Cornersville city limits! The police were too busy writing tickets and
could not be bothered with protecting its residents. Any time that law
enforcement begins to be used as a revenue source, crooked things will
happen. That is what it sounds like you have in Bluff City. It would be
interesting to know exactly where each dollar from these tickets goes.
Cornersville had a lot of corruption concerning its ticket money, and I
would be willing to bet that Bluff City has it to. Someone needs to start
In regards to traffic cameras, they have been proven to cause more accidents
than they prevent. The sooner that these things are removed from our
streets, the better off we will all be!"
"I saw the article about you stealing the domain, awesome move. Since you're
using it to post complaints about red light cameras and such I thought I'd
contribute my article on my own complaints in the section called "Lights,
Way to shake and bake dude! You are my hero. That is the best thing you could
have done for your community. Congratulations on your new website and I fully
"Traffic citations are in effect to hopefully slow people down on the road and
create consequences for their actions. This is complete bull that so many
people on here are blaming the police department for having to pay for traffic
citations. Maybe if you had driven responsibly, you would not have received a
citation in the first place! Yeah, it sucks to have to pay those fines. But,
I have received a couple of them, and I take care of them. Those funds
collected from citations also go to help run your city; to keep your city
clean, beautiful, and safe. Just give the city their domain back. Sell it to
them for what you paid for it, and you won't lose any money. Or, if you want
to be a jerk, add the cost of your citation to the price, but just give it back to them."
"I think it's really great that you bought this web site !!! There are
many,many, speed traps and red light cameras here in missouri and I
personally think the supreme court should outlaw these devices. Many more
people everyday, come to distrust law enforcement and the court system
because of things like this ! Keep up the great work you're doing.
"Hi, slick move. It's amazing how clueless your local police chief
is...didn't even know his website was hijacked until reporters asked about
it. That shows how often he even looked at it. No wonder police love traffic
cameras--they don't have to do anything anymore except hang out at Starbucks
and shoot the breeze.
Look at this, http://www.bancams.com
We're fighting back against cameras and starting to get results here in WA
state. Looks like you have enough people there to organize. Good luck!!!"
"I was a police officer in SC and I despise those things. Personally I think it
should be illegal, but it doesn't matter what I think. It's all about revenue
to the local gov. Don't give an inch.
"Thank you for taking the opportunity to expose an abuse to the people by their
government sworn to protect them. You are my newest American Hero."
"Congratulations on your 'new' website.......
I got a 'present' in the mail from the Bluff City speed camera just two months
ago (April 2010) and am still pretty steamed about it.
Yes....... there is a congested area with a traffic light about 1.5 miles south
and a 45mph speed in that area is reasonable. However, the Bluff City camera is on the edge of town and, when headed toward Bristol, is within sight of open
highway and 55mph signs. To have a speed camera at that location is bordering
on a scam operation.
I continue to pass through this area fairly regularly but now make my food and
gas purchases in either Virginia OR North Carolina. Bluff City got it's $90
from me..... no one else in East Tennessee gets any. Sorry."
"I'm from Elizabethton but I'm stationed in Pascagoula, MS and heard about this
on the radio and had to check
it out on the web myself to believe it! I think it is the most ingenious idea
that you grabbed this website! I
can't imagine all the fuss there at the PD in Bluff city! I've had my share of
tickets in that area and yes I
was lucky enough to get a present in the mail while I was visiting home on
leave! Keep the site up!"
"Traffic cameras are just an extension of the low life tactics that cops use.
Cops do NOT serve and protect. They only try to scam people out of money and
never admit any wrong doing. Johnson City is no different. Anyone using
traffic cameras is a loser and is violating the constitution.
By the way, defeating a ticket is easy to do. Just go to court and ask that you be given your constitutional right to cross examine the evidence against you.
If you are shown a photo, that is not evidence because you can't cross examine
a photograph. Since there will be no witness.............. it is dismissed.
I have personal experience with this."
"Way to Go Dude! Keep up the good fight."
"Hello, Mr. McCrary! Nice thing what you did. How about opening a channel
on Youtube? Or maybe a mailing list, or something on Twitter? It's just
funny, on one side, and important to make people know about, on another.
Hope your hoster does not use dumb dnsbl.
Have a lot of fun!"
"you are my hero.
i might have been able to buy the url - but would never have really used the web as intelligently as you have done - i think i would have just let the page read - bluff city police Suck - pretty immature - you took it to the highbrow level
"this is so awesome....ha ha ha i love the disclaimer at the
bottom...hopefully this will all work out and they will take the trap down....it is a
parasitic way to make money with these fake speed traps that result in real
tickets. Way to show them...ha ha technology rules!"
"Supper, Good idea
Menan From Sri Lanka"
The best thing about you purchasing the web site name is that you know it is
really eating away at all of the law enforcement in Bluff City. They know what
they do is wrong and is just for financial gain not for any saftey reasons. It
is great that this has gotten so much press and for someone like me, who
travels around the state of Tennessee, I know not to drive through that part of the state. Why should I take a chance of getting a speeding ticket after I buy
gas, stay in a motel or eat at resturants in that community. I know they count
on motorist passing through who will just mail in their fines.
Too bad with all? the money they have made off of the speeding tickets, the city still refuses to pay their bills?in timely maner?and lost their site.
Keep up the good work.
"Gosh, if only people would obey our laws (including speeding) we would not need
to spend money on camera's!"
"Nice work! Speed enforcement has always been viewed by most citizens as
revenue generation first, safety second; but the automated cameras take it
to a ludicrous level. Everyone should apply a little civil disobediance now
and then, just to keep the authority figures in check."
"ll you whinners, just abide by the rules of the road and you won't have to
worry about getting tickets ....bunch of cry babies.
"I loved the story about how you got the domain name---AWSOME!!!!
Speed traps are just wrong and are just robbing the residents and it's
"What you are describing, in my non-legal opinion, is a
case of taxation without representation. It is no secret
that a significant portion of the fines make their way into
the police budget. Therefore, if the police want a new
squad, they simply decide to write more tickets. If
this isn't a form of unregulated taxation, I don't know
My solution to this is simple. There MUST be a
police force created that does nothing but POLICE
the POLICE. It is imperative that we KEEP THE
HONEST people HONEST. It is beyond obvious
that the police are incapable of policing themselves.
It MUST be done by an agency/department
independent from the police doling out the punishment
to the general public.
My ex is a police officer. Most of the police believe that
they are above the law and think nothing of breaking the
law to their benefit under whatever circumstances they
feel they want. It is common knowledge that police
officers routinely badge their way out of criminal acts.
The law is for EVERYBODY, not just non-cops.
In fact, my ex and her chief of police
screwed up an investigation so badly that the police were
so busy catching traffic violations that they let a pedophile
ASSAULT 16 PERCENT OF THE ENTIRE MALE HIGH
SCHOOL POPULATION before they caught him. This
sicko ASSAULTED 22 PERCENT OF THE MALE HIGH
SCHOOL POPULATION of the boys who lived WITHIN the
village limits. The police chief ended up totaling a squad car
racing with another officer and GOT AWAY WITH IT.
There needs to be a police force that will POLICE the POLICE.
Clearly, they aren't doing it themselves."
"Way to go grabbing this site! Radar cameras were used here in Ontario Canada in
the 90's. Vans with radar cameras were left vacant on the side of the highway
and moved around frequently. They proved to be absolutely no deterrent to
speeding, and were stictly a government cash grab. Getting a speeding ticket in the mail does not catch other infractions, DUI drivers, or have the
same effect as having to deal with a police officer directly. In the next
provincial election the issue became quite hot, and the party that promised to
get rid of radar cameras won against the party that brought them in! No
political party here has even spoken of them since. If you want to get rid of
these cash grab cameras in your state, make it an election issue. BTW we still have red light cameras, they have proven to be a deterrent. Good luck!, Brian
"I got my $90 present in the mail a few weeks ago. I fully support what you're
doing here. I only wish I would have researched it before paying the fine.
"In D.C. their are a lot of speed cameras, why would you put on a Highway 395
speed 45 mph, and while you drive you see a car or a van on the side of the
road with someone in it, sleeping reading or what ever they are doing taking
photos of cars that are going over the speed limit. If they can afford having
someone in the car then they should be able to have a Police Officer their
instead not some camera.?
I was very new to the area and ended up with multiple tickets from these camera, I am not saying that i was right or wrong, I received tickets in the mail with
a late fee when i never received the first ticket. How do you give me a late
fee when i had another state plate on my car and you can't get me the first
ticket but the second ticket comes right to my new address. I have meet a few
people and they told me that is what they do you don't pay fine doubles. I
think red light tickets are good not speed camera when someone else drives your car you responsible for the tickets when you not even in the car.?
what do you think."
"lol i read the story on this on yahoo. com im pretty sure the whole world will
look at the site. great job!"
your story is in the news in Germany. very fantastic!
although i live in san diego, i came across an article about your website
purchase and the story behind it. AMEN! i am so glad that there are still
some people in our country who see the carnivorous animal that america is
becoming... we are loosing rights by the day, and it is awesome to see that
courageous individuals like yourself have taken a stance! PRESS ON! AMEN!
and thanks ;0)"
"Keep up the great work!
"i don't mind the idea of camera's per se, but the description of the speed limit dropping 'for no reason' as a speed trap is not just wrong, but illegal.?
somebody fighting this type of speeding ticket would be advised to fight the
citation in court, and ask them to demonstrate why the limit drops -- they have to do this, usually its a formal traffic study that is commisioned. if they
cannot provide this, the judge will find for you and drop the case."
"I admire your originality at seeking vengeance towards your local officials.
I recently ran into a similar situation in my state of NJ and was wondering
how you went about acquiring their domain. I think it's genius! Let me
know how you did it!
"This is a big deal over nothing. Just come to a Stop at the Stop sign. Just
stay at the speed LIMIT or less. It is easy.....It's the law and you are
fighting it, because YOU have bad habits....
"I read the article about your new website from a link on Yahoo.
This should be done in more towns. Can you imagine what the PEOPLE could do
with the money the STATE is collecting?
Our society is getting sick and tired of huge (and little) fines, and
fees for its traffic tickets, credit cards, banks, or whatever because we
screw up once. We're getting tired of big brother watching us no matter
where we are, or what we do, and dolling out his "justice" without asking
questions first. Sounds like its time to put the money back in our pockets
and stop buying crap "we the people" don't support."
"try this stuff .............lol
"You go friend! I just had to pay a fine for tolls in Illinois for an alleged
violation. The problem is that I was in Illinois a year and a half ago and
never got any notice of any violation until just recently. I sent it to an
attorney and was told the ONLY recourse I had was to go to Illinois to appear
in court. The fine was $126, and I live in SC, so it would cost more than the
fine just to go, and they know that. That's why they send these out, as I
understand as much as two years after the violation. To me, this is like giving me permission to write a bogus bill and send it arbitrarily to any citizen
anywhere in the country, threaten a little, and expect them to pay up! After
all, if the government is doing it, well, they set the example for us now,
don't they! Forcing that fine is ethics at its worst. They coerce people by
threats and strongarm tactics and then condemn others for doing exactly the
same thing as they themselves are doing. What was it
Jesus said? "HYPOCRITES!!! First extract the rafter from your own eye, then you can see to extract the straw from your brothers eye." I paid my fine too, but
whatever that paper says, it is in NO way an admission of guilt on my part.
It's just simple economics."
"I think that drivers should be watching the road and the speed limit signs
instead of worrying about the cameras. I ride a motorcycle and
see way too many 4 wheel drivers not paying attention to what they are
Often times drivers will swerve to avoid using their breaks when the car
ahead is turning. This puts Everyone at risk, especially motorcyclists.
Real responsible people pay their fines, people looking for an excuse use
radar detectors or buy websites to complain."
"Why not pick a date and ask everybody thats been unfairly ticketed to meet
(bring your home made protest sign) in front of the Bluff City Police Dept.
Invite the media to attend, maybe serve hotdogs and lemonade. After all, when
life serves you a lemon why not enjoy some lemonade.
If this party is successful you could make it a once a month event. The only
requirement to attend would be that you get a Bluff City Speed Trap Ticket.
You could call it The Monthly Bluff City Speed Trap Victims Party. If this
became really popular you could have people coming from all over the world
and speeding thrue the trap just to get invited. You could give out a trophy for the highest price ticket. Call it The Bluff City Biggest Speed Trap Sucker
I'm sure the city and the PD would be interested in kicking in a few bucks to
pay for the trophy. They would probably look at it as an investment that could produce even better profit then what their currently raking in."
"Check out the cameras - the strobe lights many of them use are illegal -
made in Australia - not able to get material Safety data sheets - can
cause serious eye damage"
"Good job! this BIG BROTHER crap needs to stop.
"YOU'RE MY HERO!!!!"
"Nice to see that someone has the intestinal fortitude to take on the
establishment without being totally ugly about it.
I dont think that this is an isolated incident. Your solution might be a bit
unorthodox but small towns across America have been doing this for years sans
I used to live in Delaware and in a place called Harrington they have stores set up in the median and the police sit there and write speeding tickets all the
time and even though they are on private property no one challenges them.
I now live in Nevada and on a 4 lane highway going through a place called
Dayton, they have it reduced from 60 to 35 for about 1/2 mile and then goes up
to 55. In the 35 zone the NHP actually sits in the middle of the road in the
turn lane and runs radar.? I think it is an abomination that these practices
are spread across the country. I am not saying no repercussions for breaking
law, but? give warnings, or reduce fines. On 4 lane highways is it necessary to reduce speed like that. No other towns going down 50 is this the case. Whats
worse is that going eastbound you are downhill. They dont care and no one
challenges them. The tickets are a huge revenue boost for small communities.
Be advised that if they put a camera in, I will be calling you..
"Photo radar should be outlawed on a federal level as a violation of privacy.
The law gets a picture of the inside of your vehicle with photo evidence of
what is inside W/O the issue of a search warrant. I live in Az and have dealt
with photo radar for years. NEVER have paid any tickets or even acknowledged
their existence and have not had anything happen to me. No reports on either
my driving record or credit reports. The town of Prescott Valley has SEVERAL
of these "Speed Traps" set up and surprisingly the people in charge are all for them. The worst part about that is the idiots living there aren't smart enough to vote in people who will kill the cameras. There are several ways of handling photo radar. The easiest method is a paper bag placed over the camera and
secured with duct tape a better method involves a 4WD and chains possibly the
use of a cutting torch to prevent putting it back up."
"Great job exposing your local government for what it is! Lets get rid of all
incumbents (no matter what party) Local, State and especially Federal, to
send a signal that we
want "Big Government" off our backs! Our founding fathers would be ready to
"spill some more blood" to restore freedom in this country! Let's just do it
the easy way! Vote
all of the "Crooks" out of office! (Fresno, California)"
" http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/cerabino-tenn-speed-trap-victim-gets-high-tech -747447.html
I read with great interest about the way you got ahold of that website domain
and I think it's great!
If they don't ask for it back, don't offer! Forget those few and far betweens
that are urging you to give up the name. You're not bashing or anything.
You're allowing for freedom of speech.
We're now having to deal with the same company down here in Florida. Good luck
to us all!
"Regards from Spain.
I saw your new here:
EL CONFIDENCIAL.COM is one of most important news on line in Spain.
You are our hero.
Coru??a - Spain
Look my city
I've just read an article about your story at the German Yahoo news site - it's
so funny!! Well done!
I would love to do so in Germany :-D
Stephan (Frankfurt, Germany)"
"AWESOME!! TOTALLY AWESOME!!!
Jamal - L.A. and Bay Area - California"
"Good for you Brian McCrary, enough is enough. infiltrate , destroy , and
"Don't give back the domain dude! Sell it back to them if they come asking, and
charge 11 times what your ticket amount. Then pay the ticket with their
"The way you got this website is the BOMB.
I lobve it, just l;ove it.
Here we are dealing with red light cameras now and in fact they have a white
Van that is all tricked out inside with speed cameras and they park it along
the street and open the side window and it records you and you get a ticket
in the mail and you have to mail the payment OUT OF STATE to a company that
then gives 80% to the city.
People are just sick of it and are boycotting Business's in Juno beach Fl
where the van is parked.
They have take away the van now and replaced it with cameras at the
I sure would like to snag the City's web address.
Palm Beach florida."
"Just wrote you from Alaska...
You should have people take pics of coppers and their speed traps. I have a
great spot, there is a speed limit sign covered by trees, and 50ft down the
road is a cop waiting to make some money. I guess the chargers they are
driving aren't good enough!!"
"Just saw yahoo news what you did to Bluff City PD.
Awesome!!! Cops and their power trips. I'm in Wasilla, Ak. I was pulled over for being pushed by the wind onto the yellow line, then pulled over. When we
got to court, the cop said it wasn't windy, even though he got out of his
patrol car without his cap on, as it would have been blown away. Then also
lied in court about the location, and said it was in a safety corridor, which
doubled my ticket for no insurance from $500 to $1000. I supena'ed voice
recording and video recording, but of course, officer said he didn't have
either. So finally I talked to dispatcher, and she recommended printing out
the blotter, which has the location as he called it in. This is the only proof I have that he lied in court and was wondering if you have any idea about what
I should do?? Or if anyone else might. I'd be happy if the officer paid the
extra $500 since it wasn't a mistake, it was intentional! He also said at the
location that "it was people
like me that make his insurance rates go up!" This was the case from the
start, nothing about a safety corridor, as I was never in it. I came from a
different location and was at least 100 yards away from even entering it!!
"Who's the sheriff in this podunk town? Joe Higgins, the famed "Dodge Sheriff"
who uttered the words, "You in a heap of trouble, boy!""
"As a retired police officer from Michigan, I was very shocked to see that the
Bluff City Police Department had let their domain name lapse! Of course
curiosity got the best of me and I had to read the article and check out your
I just quickly read through a few of the previous comments that some of your
visitors had left for you. Like the police officer in California, I have a
tremendous dislike for these photo enforcement units. I agree with him in
that, the constitution, very clearly, spells out our right to face our accuser. That camera cant go to court to testify against ANY of the tickets its computer system issued!
Besides that, in Michigan, I know a great many police unions that would file
greivances against the installation of those cameras on the basis that it is
taking away work from real cops!!
Lastly I would like to reply to the comment form a reader who stated that the
Detroit, Michigan judges get up to 50% of each fine placed into their
retirement fund. I have never heard anything like that. Thats absolutely
ABSURD! I guess, maybe, in a round-about way they do..... The fines are
divided up and some percentage goes to the state and some to the municipality
or county that actually issued the citation. Once the city or county get their percentage (albeit ever-so-small!) the moneys go into the general fund. No
fine money ever goes directly into ANY judge's or police officer's retirement!!
I love what you've done with the site! Keep up the great work!!"
"I so love this sticking it to the cops. I have been victimized by them and their radar too many times. These cameras are a joke and that should not be allowed.
Keep up the good work and the fight.
"Good job. I remember 50 years ago when my father was caught in a speed trap for going 6 miles over the speed limit in Sebastian, FL and didn't have the money
in his pocket to pay the ticket. The police took him to jail until my
grandfather wired in the money, while my mother and three kids were left in the parking lot until the money arrived. To this day I associate Sebastian, FL
with being a place I can't trust.
ds West Palm Beach, FL"
"Tickets have become a way of revenue for police departments and states. It's
not about safety anymore it's about MONEY and jobs. There should be law
enforce of speed zones, however when police setup a speed trap they clearly
know that the zone is built for faster speeds then what is posted. Sometimes
there is a safety issue, but I am convinced that these traps are created for
revenue generation. Keep up the good work. You are spreading the word on how
corrupt things are getting out there.
"We support the cameras both fro speed & stop sign violations, for small
dept.s this is a godsend, five camera s for the $ of 1 part time officer
to try and due a speed trap
I think that it is great what you have done. I am not one who believes in
anarchy, but I do believe that we need people like you to watch "good"
people to make sure that they do not become bad. I completely understand
the cameras and do not (for the most part) have a problem with them. When
someone like this intentionally takes a piece of equipment like this and
uses it only to make money, then I have a problem. This is clearly what is
happening here. They are only using this to make money. Please, please,
please continue on with what you are doing. Not only is that City having to
wake up but you are going to cause every other (bad) municipality to second
guess what their intentions really are. All the good ones will continue
being good and the others will understand that they will have to be
Thank you much,
"Who can look thru this cameras as they sit there 24/7? FBI? CIA? DOD?
ATF? NSA? IRS? DIA? DEA? DOT?"
"Provides an opportunity for all of us who think we are special and do not have
to obey traffic laws - or any other laws, for that matter - if we don't want
to. Those laws are for other people. We should be able to drive as fast as
want, whenever we want and rip right through those stupid red lights if we
think we can make it. We're special and we know it!"
You gained publicity also in Finland, Europe. The biggest PC Magzine
in Finland published a story on your website and the history of it.
With kind regards,
"I love what you did to the police website!
I had a ticket there too...
Can't believe the police are that stupid to loose their website :)
"I read about your story in the news and wanted to say "YOU ARE THE MAN!!!"
Hysterically funny! The funniest (and ironic) thing is the Police Chief's
comment: "I feel like he's doing it out of revenge because he got a ticket" - GEE -- YOU THINK???
"I stumbled upon a press release about your site and your situation. All I have
to say is "GOOD JOB!". It's about time that technology is used against the
same corporation that imposes it's tax our citizens."
"It's good that you fight this:? Out here in Commie-fornia, the fines are upwards of $400 for "redlight cameras", and they go on your record.?
But people are fighting it, and? they've recently passed legislation limiting
the fines for "rolling right turns on red", the most lucrative "offense" (but
not terribly dangerous).?
Little by little, we can beat the bureaucrats back."
"Well done.........that story certainly falls under "it's a round world".
We have cameras in Tampa for red light runners but not any for
speeding.It just doesn't feel right machines taxing people.The question
is where does it stop?I think it's illegal to spit in Singapore or chew
gum on transit .A few more stupid laws like that and city hall could
double their revenue.It may be time to find a place where the people
run the government....umm what a novel idea.
""Way to stick it to the Man"
"way to stick it to the man! F traffic camera's"
"Do you post all the comments? Or do you screen them and only post
the important ones? Will this be posted? Thanks."
"Just read an article on your site and checked it out. What Bluff City is
doing with this speed trap is despicable. I'm against speed traps in
general, but when a city intentionally attempts to TRICK its citizens, or
those passing through, by changing the speed limit specifically to trap
unsuspecting drivers, they deserve to be thrown out of office. If the speed
limit remained unchanged I might be writing a different email, but what
Bluff City has done is nothing but a money grab. The minute fines change
from a deterrent to a revenue source to be manipulated, there is a huge
problem. Keep up the good work!"
"If you want to achieve results in your fight against the speed trap, it would
be useful for your web site to publish a compiled list of Bluff City
businesses and their phone numbers. Suggest that visitors to your site call
the businesses and tell them they will not do business with any BC business
until the speed trap is removed. If each business owner gets 50-100 calls,
they'll get the speed trap removed. A starter list of businesses can be found by Googling "Bluff City Businesses" and you can get a better list by searching Bluff City on Google Maps, at a high zoom level. Businesses are listed on the map, and you can Google the businesses to get phone numbers.
By the way, I don't suppose you've seen any evidence that a challenged fine
gets thrown out, have you?"
"Sounds to me like Piney Flats and Bluff City are under the control of Boss
Hog. Better call Uncle Jessie and the get the boys out there to take care
of the problem."
"Great Job ,,I love it
any info on how to break the cameras..or the sensors ??
"Sounds to me like Piney Flats and Bluff City are under the control of Boss
Hog. Better call Uncle Jessie and the get the boys out there to take care
of the problem."
"Great site. I received a speeding ticket via the bluff city speed cam. Do I
have to pay this? What happens if I ignore this?"
"Although clever and a bit amusing, why do this and attribute to the dumbing
down of our society? People should be held accountable for their actions. If
you speed and get caught...pay the fines. Give the police department back
their website and let them focus on law enforcement issues and not with
someone who's pulling a prank like a class clown.
Missouri Resident, Eagle Scout and Former Marine"
"Not so long ago armed highwaymen were caught and hung, now they work for the
Vote all the lying criminals out of office in November.
"I just wanted to let you know that I love what you have done with this page.
Keep up the good work!"
"These traffic ticketing programs are for the financial benefit of the local
judge's, not the police departments! The court judge's have the authority and
they run these scams. This whole "system" started in Beaverton, Oregon when
they hauled in $500,000 during a three month test trial some years ago, when I lived there, and they have never looked back. Photo radar has spread like a
virus worldwide since then. I was ticketed by mail from Scottsdale, AZ, for a
photo taken of me speeding on a long (circular) downhill, four
lane boulevard in Beaverton, Oregon. I sat through a court session one evening in Beaverton Municipal Court and only in my own case, where the human camera
operator was unable to be present at my hearing, were the alleged
guilty excused, without cost. Everybody else was Guilty as Charged and had to
pay from 50%-100% of the $200 fine. There were no extenuating circumstances
allowed; it was a Star Chamber atmosphere.
inquiry and was told by a Beaverton city court clerk that 1/3 of each fine is
put into the judge's retirement plan, because he was "on contract", and was
not a regular court employee. These photo radar judges are on commission! This is not an uncommon practice. In Detroit, Michigan, 50% of every traffic ticket is put into the presiding judge's retirement plan, so go figure. Our problem
is not with the police who operate these machines, our problem is the court
judges! They need to be exposed and named so we will know who is the primary
beneficiary of our fines!"
"I work with a travel co. that will remain nameless.
We had 2 tour buses scheduled to go to Tenn.
After hearing how Tenn treats their visitors.
The group changed itinerary.
Suggest you elect officals that are for the people, not the money.
I always wanted to visit Tenn but now I don't think that will happen"
Dave in Canada"
"Congratulations on the site. I am a Police Officer with the State of California
and am happy to see this. I personally believe in the Constitution of the
United States which gives us the right to see our accusor when we are accused
of a crime. In too many states people are accused by machines and technology
that place blame on the "registered owner" even if they were not driving the
vehicle. If you get stopped by a cop, he/she does not write the ticket to the
RO, they write it to the driver. Also, a camera cannot use reasoning to
determine if a driver needs a ticket or a warning. Some drivers only need a
warning to remind them to pay attention. Even after giving a driver a ticket, I have at times, ripped up the original that I am supposed to turn in. A camera
takes this determination away from the officer in an effort to make more
revenue for a city. Also, how often are these cameras calibrated and how can a city be sure they have the right
vehicle. An officer has to be trained on the proper use of radar or the ticket will be thrown out in court. Is there any training involved in the use of
speed cameras and the issuance of tickets with them
Good job and keep up the good work"
"Bravo, sir! Well played."
"they have some red light cameras in the st louis area that have got me a couple
one time i distinctly remember being across the line before it turned red, but i got a ticket in the mail anyway with a blurry picture of my cars front tires
behind the line at a red light.
i think they doctor some of these photos on close calls to get more money out of people.
i mean what's to stop them??
the people running the camera/ticket operation are out of phoenix or somewhere
else anyways. there's just no way to prove them wrong. it's ridiculous and
illegal in my opinion and congratultions to you."
"Found you through
What Bluff City has done is ABUSE it's police power for money. Smells a lot
like extortion to me. Find out who's responsible and bring criminal charges,
maybe a class action or something. But teach these people that they will be
held personally responsible.
I'm disgusted with the government's efforts to criminalize freedom, and I grieve that they are continuing to get away with it.
I commend you for your excellent work. Perseverando.
"What's the big deal?? If you aren't breaking the law and speeding, why worry
about the cameras???? Seems like this is sort of like the lawbreakers making
the laws to me. ?
The Ride of Your Life - The Tennessee Walking Horse!!"
"Check out this app that you can have on your phone that helps identify red light cameras and live police traps. I use it and it's great.
"Congratulations. I do not see this as "revenge" to the police department, as
they have stated, rather I see it as fighting fire with fire, that is, using
technology to your advantage, as the PDs are doing with Web Cameras. the
only differece is that the PDs, as government representatives have an
obligation to minimize their intrusions into citizens lives. As a private
citizen, you rightly have no obligation to minimize monitoring and reporting
of the government, and there is a collective duty of citizens to do so. More
power to you.
"Nice one mate.
Here's a link I think you may enjoy: www.greedfines.co.za
"read your story on the net...ha,ha,ha bluffcity cops snooze, bluff city cops lose... dave b kingsport tn"
"My daughter goes to Texas A&M in College Station Texas. They
had red light cameras circling the campus to prey on the student
population in the college town. Early in the year it went for a vote
and all of the cameras have been removed. It can happen."
with great pleasure that I commend you on your choice of venue to combat
a nonsensical piece of bureaucracy.
I agree that this need to get more publicity and embarass the moronic
"You are on russian web news, good job!
"This is by far the best story I have ever read! You truly are an inspiration
for payback. I hope all those worthless pigs learned a lesson about picking on someone with a head on their shoulders. Keep up the great work!
Chris from Minnesota"
"F**k those dumb revenue enhancing pri&ks. Good on you mate!"
"You might want to thing about adding a link where people can send
donations, ( like paypal ) to help you run the site. People hate these
money grabbers and ARE willing to donate. I run several sites and it
takes bucks and buckets of time. Just a thought......
Go get em and don't back down!
"Hello from UK, London, u r a star !!!
Great job re http://www.bluffcitypd.com/
"Well done. Those cameras are, in my opininon, illegal anyway. Nobody likes
getting a speeding ticket but getting one from a camera is going too far. I
got one from Oregon a few years back in the mail two weeks after returning
from there while on vacation. I will never go back to that state to spend my
hard earned money again.
Most speed limits are kept rediculously low anyway so that cops have a way to
create revenue at a moments notice. This turns cops into revenuers/tax
collectors. I have no tolerance for revenuers.
Its not the peoples fault that the government thinks they have an endless
supply of money - they don't. If they can't balance their budget, they need to lay people off including cops and fire fighters and sell stuff like we the
people have to do to get within our means.
Again, what an awesome way to get a little respect. I know at least one IT
manager that's in hot water now...."
"F**k these cops and the power they weild, doing nothing but revenueing on the
public. They are supposed to be our public servants but, instead, we serve
them up our paychecks under threat of imprisonment. Their entitlements are
ruining the country's financial well-being and their arrogance is sickening.
What a great way to illustrate just how stupid they are and to dispense with
their overbearing authority that says they are better than the rest of us.
"Photo enforced traffic lights suk.
Laguna Beach. CA."
"Way to go David!! You're my hero..Tickets are nothing more then a hidden
tax, I caught the city of Peoria, Az lowering the yellow light time to
catch more people with their red light cameras. This decrease in time by
a fraction of a second increases accidents by 215%. So do let then give
you that public safety crap. They are killing people their so they can
make a few bucks.
Best wishes, Mike"
"Great job. You might sell it back to them for a hefty sum."
"Hello, here in Brazil is like that. We call here the "industry of money". Many
do not have signs indicating that the speed is controlled. What we can do? But his idea was very good. Greetings, Rodrigo Jaccoud."
"Hi from Poland,
I Just wanna say that your action got quite well-known in my country, where
we can read about you
And YOUR website here
"i absolutely love your site!
I'm from Paradise Valley, Arizona-- the first city to employ these
ridiculous abusive cameras-- and now they've overrun all of Arizona
Please buy out the various AZ websites as well!
Thank you for a moment of sanity and humor surrounding a public nuisance and
My hat goes off to you and the guy who gat zapped in Oklahoma by a local
speed trap. There is also a huge speed trap in Rush Springs, Oklahoma where
the speed zone drops from 70mph along a state four lane highway down to 45mph
and yep, you guessed it, my fine was $164 and that included an extra "$50" in
cash along with the fine which also was paid in cash-their rules. The court
told me that if I paid the extra $50 bucks the speeding ticket wouldn't be
turned in to my insurance company - I hate those guys but what can you do?
This same police force chased me down about eight miles past their town and
accused me of driving off after filling up with gas at a local quick stop,
luckily for me the girl at the register remembered me paying. I hate those
guys. Many small towns in Oklahoma are dependent on simple minded local
yokels who are too lazy to work a real job and enjoy harassing the working men and women of the state. My job requires me to drive in the vicinity of this
small corrupt town but now I drive miles around the town to avoid this local
police corruption. I hate those guys.
Thank you for letting me blow off steam."
"Speeding Cameras and high fees are the same problem in Germany.
Congratulations for that genial coup.Best Wishes
"I just wanted to say "good for you." Washington state is full of those speed
traps, and I get enough tickets ... I love what you did!!! Smart.... ?;)
"I just wanted to say, pulling the domain name from them was simply awesome.
How many times have they pulled you over to harass you since this went down?"
"I just read about your take over in the german yahoo.de where it is
places on page #1. Congretualtions.
Your are very welcome to visit me germany to drive my superstrong BMW
Diesel with 145 mph on the autobahn just like we do every single day
we drive to work and the road is clear. But because police gets me on
my nerves too I have a RHD Rolls Royce Classic Car just to anger the
Every single time cops polling me to check the documents of this Rolls
Royce these robber-knights walk to the wrong site of the vehicle where
the front seat passenger is empty,
wich is quite funny. My website http://www.0800-oldtimervermittlung.de/
Best regards from germany
"Just read about it on yahoo!. And all I can say is, it's an AWESOME deal taking
over the website.
Greetings from Berlin, Germany
"I live in Jefferson Parish Louisiana, a suburb of New Orleans. Our red light
cameras have been turned off, at least temporarily, when it came out that the
camera company was giving kick backs and gifts to the local politicians. I
bet there is a lot of this kind of corruption going. No wonder our local
politicians became so supportive of this for "safety sake". I am not sure
they improve safety. After the cameras came to town I have seen drivers
nearly panic when the light turns yellow. I've seen some slam on the breaks
causing near rear end collisions while others floor it to get across on the
yellow. I was almost rear ended myself. So now I slow down to about 10 below
the speed limit at least 1/2 block away, then speed up at the last few seconds of approach, if it hasn't gone to yellow. That gives you time to hopefully
stay out of trouble and not get a ticket. But the whole thing is just another
tax, and speed traps and red light cameras are undermining respect for Police, government and Law and Order. They are also hurting local businesses and
therefore the local economy. We used to fish/vacation in Grand Isle
Louisiana, but you had to go through the town of Golden Meadow's speed trap to get there. After two tickets over 20 years ago, we never went back, we go
fishing in other places as far away as Florida."
"I'm a 55y/o WASP full-time employed tax-paying conservative physician who
drives safely, doesn't drink, smoke, carouse, gamble.. etc... one of whose few (until recently at least) beefs with the "establishment" has been this
dehumanized, parasitic, photoenforcement abomination that is good for nothing
more than taking one more "bite" from honest individuals who've been taxed &
feed to the point of frustration (if not bankruptcy) already.
???? Sir, I applaud you. The government's taken most of it, but there's enough left that if you ever get to the TorC NM area, dinner's on me!???? "doc" Dave."
Way to play it smart! Congrats to you.
Here's another opportunity for you. My company markets Legal Protection
services, which also fights any and all "Moving Traffic Tickets" for people.
As I'm sure you'll agree, this is a much needed service in today's crazy
I'd like to see what would be involved for me to put a banner on your
website. It looks like this:
Which would link to my company website address:
All you'd have to do, is simply add this line of code to your web page:
Let me know your thoughts, and what kind of a deal we could work out
Success in all you do!
Keep it up!
"Bravo to you for taking over their website LOL....
there is a anti-photo radar orginization in Phoenix Arizona that has
succesfully to have all the cameras taken down on state highways,
cameras will remain up in the cities until November when the citizens
their vote to ban all photo radar cameras from the entire state.
They are the ones who collected teh signatures to get it on the ballot..
Good luck and keep up the good work!
"I live in Los Angeles and received a Red-Light camera ticket and paid
ones, plus traffic school. I made a California right turn...meaning I
rolled around the corner. The city of Orange Country, CA is putting
to the public whether to have Red-light cameras in their city. I
would be good for your site. Follow link for the article.
Good luck in your crusade!
"Just read about you on CNET. You are my new hero. To hell
with all those scientists and mathematicians and physicists and chemists.
"Now this is an AWESOME way to stick it to 'the man'! I love it and applaud
your efforts. Way to go, friend, way to go!!
JB in GA"
"Way to go! I was caught in a similar trap in 2008 while on vacation, and was
just following the local semi's who never slowed down. But because my plates
were out-of-state, the local PD pulled me over and issued me a citation.
Never mind I was going the same speed as the rest of the traffic! They know
out-of-state drivers don't want to come back to go to court, so we end up
paying the fees and fines!
Also, congratulations on the purchase of the domain name!
"Congrats on your excellent idea to take over the site! Hope someone can do the
same for the Oak Ridge Tennessee city site and blast THEIR cameras too!
Keep piling it on Brian! All the best!
"These are links from my home town.
I beleive it is the same company Johnson City has contracted with.
"I'm a Bristol, VA native living in Knoxville. I just wanted to let you
know that you have made it onto a world renown gadget blog and people
all over the country are reading about this now. Good job. I almost got
caught by the speed camera on my last visit to the TriCities."
"I have a quick question. What if someone else is driving your car, and
they are speeding through this speedtrap, and the ticket is sent to you?
How do they know it wasn't you driving?
"In TN since the tickets are a civil violation, the cameras do not take a
picture of the driver. They really don't care who was driving since no points
go on your license anyway. You have to fill out a form if you are the owner
of the car but were not driving it at the time, and on the form state who was
driving at that time."
"Just messaging to say how much of an idiot you are. Just follow the f**king
law, its not that hard. Speed limit is 45? Go f**king 45 and maybe you
wouldn't get the stupid ticket. Now you can stop being a 12 year old brat,
f**king grow up to be the 30 year old you are, and get on with life. People
like you being this f**king stupid is what is ruining the american society.
You make me sick."
"man those cops or going to be up your ass everytime you get in your car"
First,, let me apologise about writing to you,, I simply have no one else to
write to about this. Memorial day weekend, I came thru a town called big
cabin oklahoma. The 400 pound police officer pulled me over and gave me a
speeding ticket. Yes, it was a trap, I will spare you all the details, but
trust me, this is the most offensive thing I have seen in america. Totally
unamerican what they did to me. Anyway, I googled Big Cabin Oklahoma, and it
turns out that this town has actually had their priviledges of writing
tickets revoked by the department of health in oklahoma. I wanted to write
the mayor and the chief and whoever else would listen a letter, but then I
thought, they are allll in on it. So, hey,, it was hard, but I forgave it,
paid my ticket and moved on. If you have the time to devote to this, you can
check out big cabin ok. The police officer was the most unprofessionsal that
I have ever seen. Even on the line of being abusive.
Thanks for listening!
$ Jack Martin $"
"Congratulations on your take over of the web site. It is truly nice
have a way of fighting back against the money-wasting government
Speed cameras are not about safety, they are about making money.
Verhasselt should get a life - I imagine, he drives a Prius."
"Your all over the german news, not only that one page that Nico already
just a few picked out from several european countries:
As you can see Germany, Austria, Great Britain and Switzerland and several other european countries are loughing their heads off over you giving them a revenge
of that kind!
Good job, bro! Keep fighting...
Greetz from Germany, Cani"
"Check out my thoughts on the subject of traffic cameras on my blog at
($afety Fir$t: Traffic
and You). As you'll see, your story made me laugh out loud.
"We just published an article about your great story with bluffcityd.com
our website www.noows.de . Our german website
provides information about the lastest news and stories from all over
world as well as service-oriented articles for our readers. We have up
100.0000 visitors a day and we think your story about bluffcitypd.com
entertain our readers. Here is the link to our story about you:
Maybe you want to link our article in your section - bluffcitypd.com in
"So, this is the legacy most of you are leaving your children, "Take no
responsibility for your actions and pass the buck". Pretty disgusting
I see it. Laws, all laws, SPEED laws are put into place for protection
safety. It's all very simple, don't speed and you won't get a ticket.
from a camera and not from the officer down the street hiding behind
building. I lived in Granby, Colorado; a town of about 2000 people
miles west of Denver, for about four years. The speed limit changes
same there, 55 to 40 to 30 and finally 25 in town. The signs are there
all you have to do is slow down. Paying attention and having your eyes
always scanning is part of driving and if you are doing that you do see
Stores and banks have cameras installed to help DETER and apprehend
and robbers. Is that an invasion of your privacy ? Is it okay for you
to go in and steal something or rob a bank and then complain about the
in court ? Part of the current evidence against Joran Van Der Sloot is
image! It works; maybe not perfectly and maybe not the correct person
the car, but mostly it works in taking pictures of people speeding or
red lights. Excessive speed is one of the top causes of most
Most police officers give you about 5 MPH over the limit anyway, above
that you know you're speeding. What amazes me are the people that are
about speeding 10 MPH over the limit. There should be a day of jail
that! To me if you put speeding and running red lights together you
very fatal ending. When the light turns yellow that means to slow down
stop; not step on the gas! When the speed limit sign says 45, that
It's all pretty simple.
Newport News, VA"
"I love your BluffCityPD.com site. What a great idea to create it to
others about the camera speed trap. The Internet is a great public forum
and using it this way to fight back is a great service to provide to the
public. I have something similar at my site,
to warn consumers about
Internet service. I believe that the Internet is a great leveler for
consumers and citizens. I commend your efforts and wish you great
success. Good luck!
"Congratulations from Paris/France...
...here we have also (a lot of them!) those moneymaking cameras.
Keep it up !
"LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT!!! Kudos for getting some "justice" and
sticking it to the man! Might not be a lot, but it sure is great
"Seems that the elders of Bluff City have been drinking too much
I applaud you for what you did, the combined IQ of the Bluff City City
including this idiot Police Chief does not amount to half of the IQ of a
Great work on your part!"
"I applaud you and your site for taking the time to show "our government
I think you should prominently publish the names of the people who
create the speed trap!
All to often people, instead of doing what is right, hide behind their
position.Let the light of truth shine and perhaps others will think
twice before what
amounts to (in the case) stealing from the populace.
The money collected from the speed trap is much better used for private
enterprise, building and creating real jobs than supporting typical
Thank you again!
~John, San Francisco"
"I commend you for being observant enough to legally take over the web
site and expose the apparent cash cow setup by the police department. I
certainly understand Chief Nelson's concerns, but those warning signs
that flash vehicle speeds to drivers are just as effective - they
obviously prefer the $250 million/ month. (Can that be correct? No
police department handles that kind of cash flow responsibly.) Happy
Jason from Hartford, CT."
your Page is on www.winfuture.de/news,56067.html
"What a story you have here. It is funny in so many ways and sad because
people feel your pain in getting any ticket. It is why I started Ticket Trap
_www.ParkingTicketGame.com_ (http://www.ParkingTicketGame.com) .
Millions of tickets are given out every year. From getting my own tickets
living in the city, I wanted to see and do something to help people.
Ticket Trap is a 5 level Q & A game about parking regulations. It is in
English & Spanish and free to play at this time. I am planning to update and
make it more fun to play.
I would love your comments about the game if you have the time.
All the best to you and your efforts to fight tickets!
"i. saw the site on a online newspaper of sorts. Wanted to say good for
you. bout damn time someone took stuff like this by the nads and showed
it for what it is."
"I must say it is really sad when public safety is set aside in favor of
raising revenue to perpetuate the employment of person(s) compromising my
safety. If there is a problem intersection, increase the yellow light
duration a second or two. I'd love to see how many billions would be saved
in medical costs, pain, suffering, lost wages, insurance payouts, etc. by
enforcing safety compared to the revenue raised in the name of it. I'm all
in favor of upholding reasonable speed limits and enforcing safe driving and
doing it in a consistent, expected, professional manner. One should be held
accountable for one's actions. But these cameras have been deployed in a
way that perverts that tenant of citizenship.
"A standing ovation to you!"
"LOL, I LOVE it! You've got brass balls my friend and it's about damn time
someone gave these minions a taste of their own medicine. We need to do this
to every dang complacent federal, state and local entity and hijack their web
sites in order to show them who is in control of this damn country. We are not THEIR cash cows and I for one wanna see this revenus machine crash and burn.
If "they" want money, then they can get out there and actually work or produce something for it.....GD parasites!
Learn the truth...
"I'm a fan of what you did here. I live in Chicago and these Red Light
Cams(Revenue Machines) have to go! There have been protests but as far as I
can tell the politicians in this city don't care at all what the tax paying
citizens think. We need to organize and fight this Chicago! We need to go
out and egg, paintball, spray paint, or tear down those cameras! Lets get
smart like Bluff City Brian and hit them where it hurts! Lets STOP BIG
BROTHER from CONTROLLING OUR LIVES! WE WORK TOO HARD FOR THIS CRAP!"
"Here's a California citizen's response to red light cameras:
http://www.highwayrobbery.net/. Thought you would be interested in it."
"I don't know why I feel compelled to write you, I normally just read and
I see that you have a lot of support and I get why.
I mean it's frustrating having to pay for these tickets when times are so
I am guilty of speeding myself (lots)! But now that I have children, I make
a conscious decision to do the speed limit. Not only that... It's the law.
I know you were angry, but were you speeding? And if not, then did you have
your say in court?
I know you must be getting 100's of e-mails and you probably won't even read
mine..... I just don't want people to think of the Police as bad people,
they've saved my life more than once!
Your story really blew up and now they are the bad guys for doing their
jobs. They have families, they have bills to pay just like you and I.They
are real people, and it's nothing personal.
I had to get to my 30's to finally get that, they are not out to destroy me.
No one ever steps back and look at any mistakes that they may have made.
I admit, had I not been speeding, or made a full stop at that stop sign, I
wouldn't have gotten a ticket. These rules and regulations are there for the
safety of not just us but our children, and community.
I hope you do the right thing and Give the PD their domain name back. It
would be the right thing to do.
I'm not a Police Officer or a Lawyer, pretty unimportant person actually,
just a mom who loves her family. I rely on the police, to help protect me,
keep me and my family safe.
This is especially for those who are not particularly thinking how scary a
car accident can be, when you are with your children and rear ended by
someone speeding..... And all they did was look down to turn their radio
knob and wasn't aware the car in front of them stopped, it just takes a
second, but...... maybe if they were doing the speed limit, maybe that
could have lesson the impact and had made a difference between life and
Please reconsider Mr McCrary, the cameras are there for our safety and the
safety of others.
I hope you know that this e-mail is not in hatred or even anger, just
something felt I needed to share. And I guess I just wanted to tell you that
people have died from others negligence, not evil doers.....it isn't always
that drunk driver who kills a loved one Mr McCrary. Speeding in any incident
can kill my baby in a blink of an eye. That's why we have rules we should
While I haven't had time to respond to many emails personally, I did
want to respond to yours to let you know I do understand where some of your
beliefs come from. I want safe roads as well but the original intent
of this site, before it went international, was to expose the speed
trap in Bluff City.
Please take a moment to scan through the first few articles at the top
of the site and you will see what I mean. This is a large 4 lane
divided highway with great visibility, that, as soon as you come into
this small town of 1500 people, the speed limit drops 10mph and almost
immediately there is a camera there. In some months this town was
bringing in over a quarter million dollars a month! Half of it goes out
of state and this has really been hurting everyone around here with the
loss of this money they need to buy food, etc.
I am not against resonable law enforcement, I just do not believe this
is the way to do it. It really does nothing to stop anyone to begin
with. If I want to speed down that highway at 100mph tonight, I can do
so with no worries about losing my license. If I went down it 100
times, all I'll have is a $9000 bill, but I can still drive, no points
on my license, anything!"
"I appreciate your response..I have to say I wasn't looking to be posted on
your site and It wasn't intended to be rude by any means.
After going on and reading some of the articles like you suggested , I see
this goes a little further than just a speeding ticket. Your laws in Tn are
a little different than up here.
I was a little shocked by this statement in your e-mail:
"If I want to speed down that highway at 100mph tonight, I can do
so with no worries about losing my license. If I went down it 100
times, all I'll have is a $9000 bill, but I can still drive, no points
on my license, anything!"
UH where the heck do you live....!?! No punishment, just pay them money and
And this quote!
"over a quarter-million dollars a month" in fines, most of which goes to a
foreign-owned company operating the device."
This is so wrong, I don't even know where to start! If your city isn't
getting any of this money back... what is the point?
I have to say that this is just shameful, especially since it's such a small
city. If these tickets aren't bringing any revenue back into the schools or
community, then they need to come down, and the police need to get back to
doing their jobs!
I apologize Brian for not furthering my research before I jumped to
conclusions about your "speeding." Looks like this is about a camera
catching people not even getting the chance to slow down first from doing
the ORIGINAL speed limit.
Speed traps?? My City does those...... the good old fashion way, a P.O
every 100 yards to get ya!
Good Luck Mr McCrary."
"Yes, in the state of TN the safety camera violations are considered civil
violations and as such do not go on your driving record at all, so you can
break the law as much as you want as long as you have money to pay the bill."
Great job on the snag!
You might want to add a link for trapster.com (http://www.trapster.com).
Very cool website with a companion smartphone (and I think standalone GPS) app
for reporting and tracking speedtraps around the US, the UK and Europe.
"I was in California when I was photographed two times turning right on red
without coming to a complete halt.
One instance was around 5:30 am and there was absolutely NO AUTOMOBILE
TRAFFIC in any direction for as far as you could see. (at least a block)
The other instance is when I was rushing my wife to an emergency clinic.
The car rental company charged me $25 ( x 2 tickets) for the bother of
telling the State of California who was driving their car.
Alameda County (by way of a corporation in Phoenix) proceeded to fine me
$446( x 2 tickets) for my infraction(s).
That comes to a grand total of $942!!!
I wrote to the Commissioner (they don't have a Judge in their traffic court)
and tried to explain that I was self-employed in a county with unemployment
of 16% (at that time). I included the information that Knoxville and
Johnson City didn't charge more than $100 for the same infraction and asked
for mercy. I even included a SASE for her convenience of giving me a
The silence was a resounding answer to the obvious opinion of the
government(s) who are raking in all this cash..."we don't care what you
think or how bad it hurts your pocketbook."
This is just another way to tax the population..while automating their
control over our everyday lives.
"I know the speed cameras are there and I know that more patrolling leads to
less accidents. I always slow down through that section, and did even before
the cameras were there, as that section of the road is more commercial and
busy, but the other day I was distractedly thinking about work as I drove
through that area and just went with the flow of traffic. I'm now $90.00
poorer and worried that in some way these casual tickets will show up and
accumulate on all of our driving records some day in the future. That's what
bothers me about cameras vs. the human touch. You can go through there
constantly being perfect and one slip-up and boom-basically $100 at a pop. I
can see your average good safe driver being hit several times a year across
the United States. Something about that just doesn't seem right. Thanks for
providing a place to bring some debate and attention to this."
"First of all congratulations on your new domain acquistion. I wrote to
hopefully give you some new ammunition in your fight against cameras. I do
not know if it is on state level of federal level but in Virginia the law is
such that a speeding violation must be witnessed by a police officer. As you
can imagine this excludes cameras and computers from being able to ticket you
unless they, like dogs, are considered police officers.That being said I have read numerous articles in which the ticketee threw the tickets in the trash
and fought the charges in court successfully. May or may not be true but we
need more people like yourself to stand up and fight this because if it is
considered an acceptable practice then what is to stop them from putting up
cameras every 10 feet and mailing you tickets for profanity, spitting/
throwing a cigarette butt on the sidewalk etc... Also we have all seen
instances when this kind of information has been used
by someone unauthorized to access it for extortion and therefore all of this
digital imagary would become a huge liability for the law enforcement
"I love the site, but I think you need a link to the Bluff City Police
Department?s website. (If there is one) Anyway, what if someone needs to file
a report or wants to make a non-Emergency call? It's your site but I'm just
saying you could at lets post the info. Keep up the good work. Here's the info
Bluff City Police Department
Chief of Police
661 Railroad Street
PO Box 70
Bluff City, Tennessee 37618
"i think its really cool what your doing, i can imagine bluff city pd
scrambling around thinking that you hacked there website, and then finding
out everything you did was legal. i also like how the person who said you
weren't man enough to post their bitchy complaint, wasn't man enough to sign
their name to it lol. i wish you the best in your mission and who knows
maybe they'll try to buy the domain back from you and you'll make some money
after this is all said and done. of course if it were me i would keep the
domain as long as possible out of spite.
"Please check out my link concerning red light cameras and speed traps.....I
have the answer to help http://sn.im/bbedm "
"This city government and those of so many across the country, including
those in my town, Lisle, Illinois, have lost sight of the fact that they are
there by the will of the people, to serve the people. Setting up photo
speed traps and photo intersections has nothing to do with safety and
everything to do with money grubbing by your local mismanaged government.
Timothy S Crosh
Resident Village of Lisle, Illinois"
"As a former member of a law enforcement agency, I applaud your efforts to
achieve some degree of "justice".
Speed cameras are a method of generating revenue with no chance of the violator to confront his accuser in court. I believe this is against our Constitution.
If a police officer makes a judgment call, or uses radar, at least he has the
opportunity to evaluate the situation on scene Relying on a camera prevents
the necessary element of discretion to determine whether a genuine hazard
exists or not depending upon real-time conditions.
In California, our basic speed law applies to "safe speed". This makes sense
instead of only relying on posted limits.
You can't argue with an automated speed camera. In my view, they should be
banned completely! This isn't law enforcement or public safety. It is
Newport Beach, CA"
"Your Site is AWESOME!!!! Love it. Hold them to the fire and let them know who
they work for. You are doing the right thing. It comes down to money and they
don?t care about anything else. Be a pain for them as much as they are for
you. Hope you eventually run for office. I will monitor my city and If I ever
get the chance to bust them the way you did ??My dreams could never be
Great job! No, I haven't been caught by one of those cameras because I
will not visit or travel a highway where one exists, if possible. I think
these towns should put a policeman at each camera location, not a camera.
The camera won't catch the drunken driver, someone who has a high percentage
of running red lights and speeding. Therefore, my safety is being
compromised in these areas and I feel it's an unsafe area to travel through.
They put a policeman in front of schools' traffic zones, don't they? If this
town generated so much money as has been reported, they could hire a
policeman to patrol this area 24/7. This tells me this town has little
interest in using the "safety camera" to improve safety.
Flag Pond, TN"
My friend sent me an article about your purchase of the police website.
While I live many miles away in CA (bay area), I applaud your actions. Out
here, the red light cameras cost you a non-negotiable $436$!!! It is
obviously just a money making tactic by my broke state, and I'm offended
that a ticket, which is very rarely just a blatant disregard and more often
just and innocent and harmless mistake, costs upwards of 10% of my meager
graduate student stipend. Anyway, thanks for taking a stand--have you had
any success getting the cameras removed?
"Congrats.from Va. What a HOOT-good going Guy!!!"
"Congratulations on your campaign against the organized criminals that run
many of our police departments. They continually find new and creative ways
to pick the pockets of ordinary citizens under the pretense of enforcing law
and order. What a joke!
In my mind they are the biggest organized crime syndicate in the world and
they have the financial resources of government to finance their activities.
"i found an article on the huffington post about you and what happend. i say
more power to you man keep it up."
"I wish you could stick it to Los Angeles. Your a Super Hero man"
"I am VERY VERSED in the Pros and Cons of speed cameras, so don't try to
People who are against speed cameras:
1. Just want to speed and get away with it.
2. Have no regard for speed laws, which are there to keep us all ALIVE.
3. Don't care about keeping insurance rates down for all of us.
4. Must enjoy wasting gas, because that's what speeding does.
5. Set a bad example for young new drivers by telling them, "To heck with
LAWS, we just want to DRIVE FAST !!!!"
I don't applaud your efforts at all and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Larry S. Singleton"
"You are THE MAN!!! Keep up the good work...."
"It's a Mayberry Town and a bunch of Barney Fife policemen who probably don't
have but one bullet for their guns.
I lived there for 37 years and I still love the people and the town but I
think they must have a bunch of idiots running the town.
I guess the city taxes will go way down with the police pulling in all that
money and sewer and water bills are going to go way down or someone is going
to have some explaining to do to show where the money is being spent. They
must have more police per population than any of the other towns around.
I give thumbs up to the citizens of Bluff City, it is truly a great
Mayberry town with a lot of history. It will always be home to me.
"Just read the story of the mysterious speed limit fluctuation in your
town. It kind of reminds me of an episode of The Dukes Of Hazard where
Sheriff Coltraine set up a rigged stop sign which was only visible AFTER
the General Lee went flying by.
By any chance does the police chief in Bluff City drive around with a
bassett hound named "Flash" sitting on the front seat????
If they tried pulling that crap up here in Massachusetts, there would be
a lynch mob at city hall or the state house.
Honestly though, is there ample visible warning alerting motorists about
the speed limit change? How far in advance is the warning and is it
visible at night?
Brad L. Bashner"
"Big love from Italy!
You've done a great job! LOL!
"Good Job My Friend; Good Job!!!!
M. W. Lowder"
"This is really funny, I found the site through tricities.com news. Good
statement that the public doesn't like cameras set up for automatic revenue
like this one seems to be.
It never seems like we can say anything back to the police when we think
something is unfair, and I'm glad that you found a way. I hope that you can
make the site look nice in time, get some writers on the topic, and make this
into something. You have an opportunity here, don't drop the ball, thanks.
"Just read about your takeover of this domain name.
Good for you. I hope they take those cameras down.
Frank from Maui."
"You should post the City's public e-mail address for people to provide
direct feedback; email@example.com
(that is the address that they publish on their website)
"Good afternoon. I from Russia. Has learned about that that you have selected
the domain at police. I CONGRATULATE. You have correctly made. I long
laughed at it. You have forced them to regret for them ???? the social
attitude to drivers. Thanks you. At us in Russia the city of Surgut too have
established chambers, and I consider, that it is necessary to struggle with
them. I for the free country for freedom of action, for freedom of
Mine nick name Kansol"
"Congrats on such an outstanding and sharp snag. I only wish my home town
would make the same mistake. As an IT consultant with too much time on his
hands these days, I too would grab onto such an exploit in a quick and most
satisfying way. I expect you're getting plenty of good feed back since your
story made it big.
I do have one suggestion that might help boost your renown, and make your
domain name sort of synonymous with normal people getting a little payback
against all the automated fascism we are faced with these days. Have you
considered adding a comments section where people can vent their
frustrations, report other important traffic related info, or even just
celebrate such a victory? Aside from being immediately cathartic for the
users and rubbing the city's nose in their own incompetence just a little
more, it may provide useful ideas for directions you might like to develop
toward in the future.
We all dream of stumbling across a find like yours. It is a bit unnerving to
think that people so inept as to let their city's domain registration lapse
are the same imbeciles who self-designate as qualified to set up automated
speed traps to collect information that can have such a damaging impact on
our lives. As I'm sure you know there is a financial gain to be had by
whoever sets up a traffic camera, which has been documented as leading to
dangerous things like ever shorter yellow lights, etc. Profit incentive and
law enforcement should never meet, but they do in these cameras. Let's face
it. No matter how flimsy the evidence may be, once your picture is snapped
that machine might as well be judge and jury too. One inaccurate or
manipulated snap from that camera could be the final straw that puts
someone's insurance out of reach for them in these hard times, or even their
very ability to go to work or school.
Whatever you do, please do not let them bully or intimidate you into giving
it up. It is your legal property now, and that's all there is to it. I
realize that may sound like a no brainer, but I have heard of people being
bullied out of perfectly legal and righteous domain registrations by large
companies and various levels of government.
Fight the power,
"First of all I would like to say that I am a proud resident of Bluff City,
and I enjoy living here as well.
But there is one thing that I don't really understand, and that is the whole
deal about the cameras.
I have to say in my opinion there are so many people out there that are
acting like small children with a temper.
We are adults and we need to start acting that way not like children who
just had their toys taken away,
You are acting as if it is so horrible to slow down for like 100 feet and
then speed up, and that is exactly what I do.
To me it seems as if this is some drama thing where you haven't had any
attention and you just needed a little.
If you honestly needed some attention you should have went and got it some
where else besides here.
I am not sure if has something to do with your life and the way you live or
if being a theatrical drama queen is just your nature.
I know from your behavior that you wouldn't be man enough to post my
comment, but as long as you see this Brian that is all that matters.
I just want you to know that you are not looking like someone who is cool
you sir are looking like a feminine attention whore with no respect for
These cameras are nothing if you abide by the laws that we have to abide by.
Honestly do you go around murdering and robbing people every day that you
A crime is a crime whether big or as small as a traffic violation, and I can
stand to say
that if I was to get a ticket for driving over the speed limit I would pay
it and not whine.
Sometimes I do believe that it is people like yourself who make the middle
aged people look bad.
There are 14 year olds out here that are more mature than you just give the
site up and get over your 15 minutes of fame.
Because Brian it is already over, and no one really cares much for you much
less for Mumpower either."
"Outstanding!! Nice work, Brian! It seems police have one primary
purpose nowadays... raising revenue. Cameras are just another way to
extort money from citizens to pad budgets. As well, it elicits an
oppressive "someone is always watching you" in people even less paranoid
than I am. It's also disconcerting that the Bluff City PD oversees
technology like remote camera systems, yet lacks even basic knowledge of
how the Interweb works. You have inspired me!
"Major coup on the take over of the Bluff City PD domain. I have been running sites on the Internet and its public predecessors since
1988 and would love to have that feather in my cap.
I have not gone looking, but way back in the mid 1990's West Valley City
Utah installed Photo Cop. After a year in service and millions of illegal
fines the state overturned its use after it was deemed to be unconstitutional. I believe it was ruled a form of entrapment, but do not recall the specifics. You might be able to find reference to it, and use it as a legal precedent,
albeit not specifically applicable due to the fact it is Utah State Law -v-
Arizona State Law.
South Jordan, UT"
"Your digital revenge is all over the news :-) Way to stick it to them! On
the other hand I was going through your comments and read a few posts on the
top, one of which is the "photo Blocker" Canada site reference. Photo
Blocker is a complete scam just like the speed cameras themselves. Those
plate covers and sprays are no longer effective against them. Those POS
products used to work against the older non-digital cameras, but they are
completely useless against the Red Flex video speed cameras. You can read
all about it on this site I found.
http://www.laserjammertests.com/photomask.htm A couple new stations also
exposed 'photo blocker' as being a scam. You can watch the news reviews on
News video #1:
News video #2
News video #3
The only countermeasures that really work are radar detectors, gps camera
detectors, and laser jammers."
"I saw your article in Slashdot. I just wanted to congratulate you on a very
clever piece of work.
Well done. :)
I live in Australia and we have no end of dodgy speed camera tickets due to
misuse of cameras by untrained operators and badly calibrated cameras.
I did notice an article yesterday where one US location allowed the officers to guess your speed and was making or already had made it legal for the cops to
"I have come across a nifty piece of software for mobile devices, that
lists speed cameras, red light cameras, and current speed traps called
Trapster. I have found speed cameras and enforcement locations for Bluff
city on it already, I would suggest a quick look-see. I think it would
be worth it."
Just read an article about your site and wanted to say congratulations! Keep
up the good work and keep fighting the fight! I've been an opponent of speed
cameras and similar devices since the day I first got my drivers license.
"I love this story! I hope they feel stupid."
"Brian--email me your snail mail address & I will send you a small check
to help w/ the cost of the domain name. I bet other people will do the
same. This is the most awesome coup I have seen in a long time--I'm
proud of you dude!
--James, over here in Unicoi
p.s. My wife got a ticket from these S.O.B.s the other day too."
"dude - you are awesome!!!"
"Good for you for spotting the domain expiration and buying it! You've inspired me and several more of my fellow geek friends to be a little more vigilant
when searching domain names. I can guarantee you smiles have been had from
coast to coast over this news story.
"Nice job on the website - I'm very amused.
I also hate traffic cameras, mainly from the standpoint that a civil fine
isn't going to do a single thing to keep regular speeders from obeying the
law. It needs to be a criminal fine.
That said, there used to be a speed-trap of a village up here around
Columbus called New Rome. With a population of 110, they had 11 full or
part-time police officers. Something like 65% of their total budget came
from traffic offenses. People started fighting back. It was found that the
village didn't have the authority to set the speed limit where they did. It
was a state road, and certain speed limits were set by the state, and
couldn't be modified. People fighting the tickets got the state Dept of
Transportation involved to force the village to raise the speed limit. The
state legislature also got into the act, passing a bill that forbid cities
or villages from getting above a certain amount of their annual budget from
traffic fines. The new bill allowed the state to shut down a village,
although I forget the actual mechanism.
Anyway, just some information to consider. I'd check with the state and see
if the city really has the authority to set that speed limit, just for
starters. Then check the city budget and see where all the money comes
from. Good luck.
Smaller Government. Lower Taxes. More Freedom. Vote Libertarian."
"Beautiful coup d'?tat there sir! All I can imagine is the Rocky theme song
playing in your head as you realized you had just purchased the domain. keep
up the good fight. Now I have to talk to the local bastards here about some
half-assed registration ticket given even though I had current registration!
"Man, you are awesome. That's brilliant buying their domain. In chicago we have
red light cameras ALL over, if you take a right turn on red and don't go slow
enough BAM it's 100 bucks right there, if you get stuck going through a late
yellow light that turns red BAM $100 bucks. it's crazy, anyway; congrats on
your purchase! I hope you keep the website up and running for a long time to
"Read about your domain grab online. Rock on with your bad self."
What a story!
We have the same cause, what can I do to help?
We (SignalActive) are creating a speedtrap information network for iPhone,
by integrating radar detectors w/ the phones - basically trying to put live
police speedtraps on the map.
155 Bovet Rd, Suite 476
San Mateo, CA 94402
"Municipalities and Police departments are the new Robber Barons, who
use cameras solely to generate revenue and not for safety reasons. If
they were interested in safety, they would install round-a-bouts
instead of traffic lights/cameras. This would not only be safer it
would decrease carbon emissions by saving fuel. NO, their just greedy
and lazy, looking for easy solutions to their budget problems.
Merritt Island, Florida"
"My name is Howard Taylor. I sat at my desk all day today giggling about
your turn around of events concerning the Bluff City Police department's
former" domain name. When you go look at my site your will see that even
though I have a great deal of material proving to the world that the courts,
prosecutors and cops are among the worst criminals on our streets no story
there is as funny or shows the cops for the idiots they are as does yours.
I posted your story there. You won't be able to see it yet because I have a
policy of not displaying any archived material until seven days after the
original publication date so the originator of the material can get the full
benefit from their work.
You are one of my new heroes!
Let me get to the point of my email: how LawReport.org came to be and how
you can help me - I DON'T WANT MONEY. Please keep reading.
A few years ago I was driving along minding my own business when I found
myself ticketed for DUI. I wasn't drunk and the cops knew it. They wouldn
t do any field sobriety tests nor a breath test at the station. They
altered the video by deleting most of the sound track so I couldn't prove I
was demanding field sobriety tests at the scene. They destroyed the video
from the station so I couldn't prove they would not do a breath test (they
admitted in court destroying this video). Everything the cops said was a
lie. They also assaulted me and lied about it.
I find out later my attorney clerked under the judge while in law school
(she hid this from me). She sat throughout the trial like a dead toad and
challenged nothing - even when the testimony of the cops could be shown to
be untrue simply by viewing the video! She might as well have been drunk
and passed out. The entire thing was a scam directed at me because I had
beat the state in a case that didn't go to civil trial because they knew I
was right - they settled. I kicked their ass and this was their revenge
I spent a year in jail for nothing and now I am getting my revenge and I am
just getting started.
As a result I have devoted a great deal of my time to developing LawReport
org. The idea is this - people may see a story or two now and then about
some one in law enforcement doing wrong. These stories are spaced so far
apart that they are forgotten so that when the next story comes along it
seems trivial and isolated. Even when these stories are reported by the
main stream media they disappear in just a few days never to be seen or
heard from again. I capture and archive as many stories as I can find/have
time to enter so that people can go to my site and see just how prevalent
crime and corruption is among "the good guys." Notice near the top of "The
Tip of the Iceberg" page - OVER $1BILLION dollars in lawsuits from my
archives and that's just the stuff I know about going back a few years. You
can bet that figure is 10 times higher if not more.
My biggest readers are from .edu domains. My site is used as a research
tool (that was part of my hopes and expectations). The problem I have is
marketing. Nothing I have done drives hits up. I don't think very many
people know about my site. You could really give "the cause" a shot in the
arm if you could put my logo and a link to my site on your site. If you can
do that I will send you a graphic and a small blurb.
Right now I am not happy with my layout but I find it hard to get the time
to re-design it but that will happen in the next few weeks. I plan to
enhance the search capabilities. As you will see at the bottom of the
archived stories I list the categories they are filed under. When I get the
search page done people will be able to search for information based on
I encourage you to go to my site and look around. I think you will agree it
is a very good site and is pointed in the right direction. Thanks for your
PS - If you ever want to sell the "former" Bluff City domain I will buy it.^M
PSS - You might also want to see if the other flavors of bluffcitypd are
available like .net, .org or .gov and buy them.
My Bio - I have been programming computers with Microsoft technologies for
17 years. I currently program using .net and Java for the Android OS. I
do web sites as well as one-click installs.
I work a day job but also have a small company named Solution Stop LLC and
one product named ezTrucker. ezTrucker is financial software for
over-the-road truck drivers.
"I saw your story on Fox 59 here in Indianapolis, Indiana. I loved the
story! I was also curious how you do a search for expired domains. Great
job, you had me laughing today!
"Those cameras are here in Calgary to.. bu the fine is high.....
what about this site?
i use it...."
"Read about your site on gizmodo. Keep being awesome! Fight those cameras!"
Find someone who knows how to setup Google maps developer kit and give people
the ability to post where the cameras are...."
"I'm not a petty person, but I can't help but laugh about this. You struck
gold and cashed in. Congrats to you for taking a good opportunity and making
something of it!
Joy from San Antonio, TX"
"Just wanted to say great job on finding a unique and legal recourse to
fluster police who seem to have made a business out of issuing
- Tim Hemme"
"Hi! I'm Rodolfo Bertolucci Silva!
You are famous here in Brazil!!!
I read the story in Brazil! The police here does exactly the same thing. Rip
you off, take your money from the tickets!
Kisses from Brazil!!!!"
"Why not just sell the domain back to them for $5k or so..."
"Hey... about not speeding?
"NICE WORK BUYING THE SITE!!!
"I recommend adding the link to HighwayRobbery.net (although it is specific to
California laws, it has a great deal of content re: admissibility that is
I beat mine and it's posted here
Fantastic bit of one upmanship over the powers that (allegedly) be.
All the best.
Steve in Blighty"
"Hey good job! Support from Chicago, I see a lot more cameras than I'd like.
"You should have a "Donations" page so people can help with the fees. Nicely
"cameras ruled illegal/unconstitutional in Minneapolis
"This link has a story about red light cameras in Collier County Florida
about people receiving tickets because the yellow lights are too short.
"Great job on your new website. I am glad to see you your not just
bashing but, doing so in an informative way. Of course I too was a
victim of a new speed trap in Lexington, S.C. 42 in a 35 on a downhill
grade of 12%. Its a joke really. I have done tests after my first ticket
in 10 years, that if you do not actively brake you will run over the
limit pretty easy. Also, it is worth noting that in these tough times
cities and townships are decreasing speed limits on many roads by 5 MPH.
Also, look for the speed limit to change in a very short
non-discriminatory place. These are the new tricks some are using to
raise money since property tax has fallen. I wish I had the persistence
to fight back like you did. But, like a drone I paid the $88 ticket
complaining to anyone who would listen.
We judge ourselves by our intent and we judge others by their behavior."
"Just wanted to
encourage you to keep up the good fight. Out here in Arizona we are finally
having our cameras removed in the next few months, the cash grab seems to be over for now at least..."
"You have pure ownage over all police!
you are win!!! :=)
you should post some videos from YouTube about police brutality
Congratulations on a great public information site. I have a suggestion
for a content for you. Sometime ago I've set up a google custom map which I
named "Police speed trap sightings". You may want do add this map to your
site so that visitors can add and share locations of police speed traps.
The map is open so that anyone can add and share information. I included
instructions on the left hand side of the map. Currently the map has few
sightings in the city of Saskatoon, Canada but the idea is that anyone can
enter sightings in their own location i.e. Bluff City.
Please take a look and try to enter few locations in your city. I think
your visitors would benefit greatly:
"I've experienced cars slamming on their brakes as soon as the light
turns yellow, and have 2 friends who stopped literally just touching
the white line at intersections and received $200 fines each.
Splitting the fines with private companies? BS!
You're now an official "monkeywrencher" I applaud your cleverness and
The citizens of this country need to take back control of our laws and
government, before it's completely sold out to corporate socialism.
If it's not already too late.
Thanks again, keep up the good work!
CA appellate court throw out red light photo evidence. Let everybody
know, especially the defense lawyers.
"Way to go! I think the fact that you took over this website really highlights
the concept of traffic cameras and puts them into the world-wide limelight.
Maybe that will hasten the process in getting them declared unconstitutional.
We recently moved to Johnson City from out of state, as my husband found
employment in Bristol, TN. Had the red light cameras and speed camera been
installed when we were choosing our residence, it would NOT have been Johnson
City. I am opposed to a machine doing the job that the police are supposed to do.
It was reported in our paper that the tickets as considered a non-moving
violation. They could be paid and they would have no impact on your driving
record. However, if a person wished to fight one and lost, that ticket would
suddenly be labeled as a moving violation and would result in points off your
drivers license (which can affect your auto insurance rates). Fair? I think
I am all for people obeying the traffic laws. However, this is merely a money
making opportunity with an out-of-state, for-profit, 3rd party company
determining who has broken the law and that makes them biased."
"What a jerk!! So you got caught speeding!! Slow down! Would it have been
different if a cop had tagged you and not a camera?
There are others on the road besides you! You don't own the road. The world
does not turn around you. You are not the sunlight of the earth.
How much time do you actually save by speeding? 3 minutes? Is that worth your life? The life of a child? Mother? Father?
Get over it you jerk. Return the website and go on with your life and be a
BETTER person, not the idiot that you are now."
"Another example of wearing a Teflon(r) suit. Rather than re-assess his
life, recognize his life is out of control, and discontinue deflection
of responsibility, the lawbreaker stomps off in a huff like a
disappointed 5 year old.
It is amazing how so many in our society blame others, or "the system,"
for their untoward and irresponsible actions. How about recognizing
road and driving laws for what they are - protection - and obeying them.
Life is made to be way too complicated, fraught with excuses and
complaints. 55 means 55; 65 means 65, ad nauseum. Cause and Effect:
if one does not speed, one does not get a ticket.
Sheeeesh ! ! ! The perpetrator of this offense got caught. That's a
good thing! Hopefully, the tantrum-prone cry baby will have an
epiphany in his life and he'll grow up!?!"
"Congrats on your new website!! Great job."
"I think that you're making a terrible mistake. Domain-squatting isn't a
punishable offense, but you're forgetting about karma. I hope it comes back to bite you in the ass, because I believe you're a complete douche... and you
look like a tool.
BTW, I hope you never need a police assist. I'm sure they'll help you if you
call, but I can't say you deserve their aid with your idiocy.
If you were speeding, be a MAN and own up to it. You can't do that because
you're a PUNK."
"Johnson City, Jonesborough, and Kingsport need to be recognized on your
website too... The cameras at state of franklin, and Market in Johnson
City flash constantly, I have been at that intersection repeatedly when
o one is breaking any rule and the camera flashes for no reason - then
everybody who is startled by the flash taps their brakes - this is
beyond ridiculous, dangerous, and downright transparent as an illicit
source of revenue. We the people have spoken and we don't want these
devices -yet we have no voice and go unheard at all levels of
government. This is no longer "by the people for the people". The last
domino has fallen!
Glad you got a hold of this website! Good job!"
"I just want to say, Great job on getting the website. Not only did the
associated press publish the news, I also heard it on National Public
yesterday on their Morning Edition. I, myself, got a speeding ticket
Bluff City PD. The funny thing is, I never go to Bluff City. The
picture they sent me was of a red truck, which I don't own. Nor do I
know whos truck it
really is. However, they sent me the ticket to my home address. I
number on the ticket, and they replied, "Oops, we made a mistake. Just
it." This really annoyed me because they had my name, my husband's
our address on the ticket but the ticket should have been issued to
person. I just wonder how many other people have gotten tickets when
"You are win."
"Read about you on abcnews.com.
Good for you."
"greetings frome austria,
espect for this page its a good work and the police ggg. in austria
europa its the same s**** the police like olways only your best, yur monye."
"you're my hero. this should go down in internet history as one of the
revenges ever. you're linked from this article through huffington post:
"Good for you for capturing the website:
I do not frequent Bluff City but had to be there on business early one
morning. I am always aware of the speed limits posted on the highways.
After attending my business meeting I returned home to Greeneville, TN.
About a week or so later I received a Notice of Violation which stated that
I was being sighted for speeding 56 mph in a 45 mph zone. From reading the
comments I see a lot people have been in violation of speeding at the rate
of 56 mph this must be the magic number or are the cameras stuck on 56 mph.
These cameras are a way of collecting moneys from unsuspecting people. My
violation was issued after the date Bluff City PD no longer owned the
website. So does BCPD have the right to issue this violation and used it
against me? Should I pay my $90.00 to BCPD or to the present owner? Under
no conditions will I ever pass through or spend a penny in Bluff City, from
now on I will conduct business in other areas around Bluff City."
"So happy you pulled this off. These red light and speed cameras are a complete
scam. I'm sitting in a cafe in Shaker Heights Ohio and outside is one of the
worst examples of abused red-light cameras. It's called Shaker Square.
They've got the lights timed so that you can only get through the f'n'
intersection if you punch it as soon as the light turns green. If you're not
in front you're just SOL.
All of these cameras are a money making scheme and should be illegal.
Again, props on this one!"
"Missouri Supreme Court bans administrative prosecution for red light cams
"In Arizona to many people refused to pay costing the state more money
then they were making. They are removing the cameras. Officaily the
department of transportation says they are to inforce safety not make
profit. Which why were not."
"This is THE way to protest.
Keep it up!"
I got a ticket just over the MS live on 45 this weekend in a speed trap.
I have not had a ticket in 15 years or more.
I thought Texas was bad, now I know
Good for YOU!!!!"
"The PD part of that should stand for pole dancers, now wouldn't that
Love what you are doing to them."
"In a fantastic way you have thought up! Greetings from Russia!"
"The Finnish way to deal with the cameras:
"I can only wish that everyone in congress would read all the great comments
you are getting and also how many people feel the same about this topic.
These cameras are insane, and many Americans are not blind to the facts. I
salute you man, the idea was epic!"
"Whole world watching? Reading this from the UAE - Dubai..."
"YOU ARE MY HERO!
Keep up the EXCELLENT work!
I will frame this story and forever laminate it to my wall."
"Dude, all I can say is 100% win."
"Police: Man shot red-light camera after it shot him first
"This is the feel good story of the year.
You are my hero.
"We the people!"
"The police chief says he now has more control over his website than he did
before. He was an ignorant idiot before .... did the new website come with
Good for you."
"I currently live in New York City and today while I should have been working
I stumbled upon a news article about your website. When I read it was from
Blount County, Tennessee I was ecstatic. I grew up in Blount Co. and I
showed your site to my entire office. Thank you and keep up the good work."
"Mountain Ranch, CA salutes you! dude you're a hero. you've brought attention to what many of us thankfully
aren't burdened with elsewhere. our town doesn't have a traffic light but I'm
reading though your links for hours now. the news on jun 8th has been fun to
"Great Web Site!
I live in Orlando, FL. They have put up red light cameras at several
intersections here. The result has been an increase in rear end collisions
from drivers trying to squeeze through before the camera goes off. The Cameras are coming down. If those cameras in your town are not for generating income,
I don't know what is. The company that installed & maintains them gets 40%?
That's ridiculous. Keep up the good work. I don't want big brother spying on
me. If you want to slow down traffic, put marked officers on the street. You
cannot perform law enforcement by remote control."
"I too have been victimized by this travesty of justice. *Scameras* are just
a way for local officials to pad their pockets without having to go on
record and face the public to raise taxes and have to justify the need. No,
let's just stick up a *scamera* and exercise our license to steal. I would
like to know if anyone has come across any type of electronic jamming device
to foil these highway bandits or even put them out of commission totally.
I'm guessing the only way to fight electronic "fire" is with electronic
Thank you so much for showing the bubbas that run Bluff City for the true
thieves they really are. You have done a GREAT public service and should be
given some sort of citizen's medal. Is there any way to get our state
officials to ban this kind of legal thievery? Can the great Lieutenant
Governor (would be Governor) stand up for his constituents who are suffering
from the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression and the
thousands in our area who have lost their jobs and vote to outlaw these
bandits? I have never been a Ron Ramsey fan, but if he would get some
political courage and get moving and get these things outlawed in Tennessee,
I might have to consider him, otherwise he is just another cog in the Big
Brother "company store" corrupted system under which we are coerced into
serving. Don't get me wrong, I gladly pay my fair share of taxes to support
highways, good law enforcement (not the Bluff City Bubbas), schools, etc.
that enhance our communities, but it is this absolute legal thievery I
Someone please find a way to stop this cancer before it overwhelms us!"
"I just got a link to your site. Hilarious! Thank you for making my day.
The above link is to an article about Redflex camera tickets in Orange
County CA and R. A. Baylis Esq. who I imagine has made them and several OC
cities quite mad. Long story short, if a city in Orange County wants to have
any hope of winning one of these tickets they will have to fly Redflex
people in from AZ to testify. Excellent! Especially when you know that in CA
these tickets are a criminal matter, cost about $450 and add a point on
your DMV record. In CA not paying gets ugly fast.
Mr. Baylis' website. www.99nofine.com"
"It is a misdemeanor to photograph, film or observe a person without consent
where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy, when the photographing,
filming or viewing "would offend or embarrass an ordinary person" and is
done for sexual purposes. Tenn. Code Ann. ?? 39-13-605, 39-13-607.
Dissemination of a photograph or videotape taken in violation of these
provisions is a felony. Tenn. Code Ann. ? 39-13-605(2).
Since some States seem to think it would be unlawful to record a police
officer in Public view, I think the same line of thinking should apply to
red light/speed cameras. I believe there is a reasonable expectation of
privacy inside my own car, don't you?
"A few years ago red light cameras were removed from several cities. A
judge ruled that the revenue sharing with the company was unlawful as
NC law states that ALL revenue from tickets like that goes to the
county schools. With no profit in it for them, the company removed
the cameras. So another way to skin this cat might be to remove any
incentive companies have from operating these camera in TN."
"If the police chief is not on top of the Web site, is he doing his job or is
he deligating to the hired help. In a town of 1500, I wouldn't think that he
has a big job. It's seems to me that he's passing the buck. Bottom line is
he wasn't doing his job, he wasn't on top of it. Excuses, excuses, your web
site expired and now your face is red! How many of the tickets were to
people from out of town(Race Week end), how many of these people won't spend
another dime in Bluff City, who is the real loser? I would have to say Bluff
City and their fee grabing city government. I hope everyone reads this web
site and doesn't pay their tickets. Your sewer service (Bluff City) is like
your city goverment, it stinks!!!!!!!!!"
"you have been given praise here:
"I love it!
I live in Murfreesboro and greatly resent these red-light cameras and agree
whole-heartedly that they are nothing more than revenue generators for the
company 1st and the city 2nd, with no regards to 'safety'. Reading one of
the articles about where the revenue actually goes just proves the point."
"What bothers me to no end is the law in Tennessee that's on the drivers
The test asks the question, what do you do if you approach a light and the
light turns yellow?
Do you slow down and go thru the yellow light?
Speed up and get thru the light?
Stop as quick as you can?
The answer is, speed up and get thru the light as soon as you can.
Please don't do this in Jonesborough because they have a 7 mph over the
speed limit set on the light cameras radar unit, if you go thru the light
after obeying the Tennessee law, you get a ticket, yes, if you go thru the
light in a 45 limit at 53, you get a ticket."
"Congrats on getting the domain name--Bluff City needs to wake up!
The traffic camera is a joke. It is giving Piney Flats a bad name and they
don't even receive any of the proceeds. People who see the warning signs slow down and as soon as they pass the sensors on the road, they are right back in
the gas. So--what it accomplishes is getting people to slow down for 500
feet! The real winner in this deal is the company that owns and operates the
cameras-they are making 50% of the fine for the use of their equipment. I
would love to have that type of return on an investment!!"
"Good job! I congratulate you on your initiative. I hope you figure a way to
make some change out of it as well.
"ok, look. I'm all for protesting or standing up for your rights but I think
sometimes you need to pick your battles.
was it really worth the time, effort.. not to mention costs to do all this?
Wouldn't it have been simpler to take it to court instead of instigating the
police department in which you live?"
"I'd just like to say that you are my newest hero. You embody the
revolutionary spirit that once made this nation the greatest in the world. I
live in Kingsport and have vainly protested red light cameras since their
introduction. Fortunately or unfortunately though, depending on how you look
at it, I haven't been able to obtain enough explosives to destroy any. Both my wife and I have received tickets as a result of unavoidable timing and traffic conditions that placed us under lights just turning red. As a result of these
tickets, I have begun stopping at "old" green lights or stopping and backing
up rather than going through yellow lights. Needless to say, I have narrowly
avoided several accidents to avoid paying out money that I don't have.
Intersections with these cameras have become far more dangerous than they ever were before the advent of 24 hour government surveillance. Thank you for
striking a blow against a government that stopped giving a shit about its
citizens' rights and interests long ago."
"Just starting to read through your site. I live in San Antonio- we are
surrounded by bedroom communities that LOVE the ticket cameras.
That is only because Texas had to PASS A LAW saying that municipalities
under a certain size CANNOT base anymore of their expected
revenues/budgeting from TRAFFIC TICKETS. No more than 27% of their yearly
revenue can be from traffic tickets now either.
I live about 30 minutes from SELMA.
(that one is in travel books for AVOID!)
IH35 used to pass right through the middle of their town sooooo here you
were on the INTERSTATE going 65 or whatever and SUDDENLY the speed limit
dropped to 35 on that stretch.
Before the revenue prediction cap was put in place- you should have seen
that WELL APPOINTED town!
They had an incredible amount of money to spend!
(they probably have gold toilet flushers in the municipal building! HAHAHA)
I think what you did was awesome and I am going to be on the prowl for a few
communities around here that need to have their domains "re-owned"!
A Fan From Texas"
"Someone should put a bullet in these cameras. A new age super hero ."
"This is GREAT! Congratulations on winning one for the people. These cameras
are nothing but money machines for whatever city they are used in. Love the
bit about how the British people deal with them! Maybe its time we do the
"You know, the speeding cameras are a huge joke. BCPD is rather sneaky
though. The required signage is virtually hidden in a cluster of signs
as you enter Piney Flats. Coming from the opposite direction, the
cameras are just past where the speed limit drops from 55 to
45........can anyone possibly believe this is anything other than a
revenue generator? I hope that merchants become vocal about the
possibility of lost business as a result of this speed trap."
"I used to live in Johnson City, but now I live in Tucson, AZ. We have a
terrible problem with photo radar cameras. In fact, they've just decided to
discontinue their use on the interstate because it didn't generate enough
revenue. We have them at red lights in town, then a couple of mobile speed
camera vans around town in various spots throughout the day. Rather than stop
red light runners, they tend to cause more near accidents out here. The
intersections that have the red light cameras are set up in a deceptive
manner, with several white lines besides the usual 'stop here' and
'crosswalk'. The median does not extend to the the intersection, rather it
stops short of the intersection by about 15 feet. At non red light cameras,
the median runs all the way to the edge of the intersection. So if anyone
judges where they are in the intersection by the median, they will receive a
$300 ticket for running the light. eh, i could go on for pages.. good job man."
"Congratulations on your web site.
While I am against speeding, photo radar cameras are not a good solution
for a number of reasons.
The number one cause of traffic accidents is diver inattention.
Intoxication is second and excessive speed comes in third.
I frequently drive in Scottsdale and paradise valley where the cameras
are in use. I find myself paying too much attention to my speed and not
enough to what is going on around me. I am certain that I drive more
safely at 65 MPH with my attention on the road, than I do at 55 while
staring at my speedometer.
Another failing of the speed cameras is that they are no substitute for
proper law enforcement. Once the cameras are in place, police tend to
simply ignore that area of freeway. Assuming, apparently, that their
robots will keep things safe. A driver who is drunk and weaving between
lanes while texting at 55 MPH is fine. But, the driver who accelerates
to 70 to avoid being hit will be cited. A human police officer should be
able to discern who is in the wrong in this circumstance.
Further, I have been driving in traffic, at a safe and legal speed, when
someone goes flying by me and gets caught on by the cameras. While I am
pleased to see someone who is indeed driving unsafely get his or her
due, I am also briefly blinded by a bright and distracting flash of
light. I believe I was safer with the speeder, than the flash of light.
People who speed consistently, and thus are the most dangerous, have
radar detectors or automatically updated GPS systems. So the cameras are
more likely to get responsible drivers who have let their speed creep
up, than the serious speeder.
I did receive a letter from Paradise Valley with a photo of my license
plate telling me that I had been speeding. On close inspection, the
front of the car did not match my car at all and it was certainly not I
who was driving. I can understand that they did not notice that I was
not the drive. After all, they have no way to know what I look like.
But, they matched two photos of two cars of different makes, models,
years and colors. This kind of sloppy work is inexcusable.
As for the police dept losing their website. When you consider the
effort that is made to get a domain name renewed before it becomes
available, it is pretty lax to lose one unintentionally. During the
entire time it was in redemption, apparently not a single officer
visited the site or made any updates to it. I feel that nothing could be
added to the clearly apropos quote from the fictional character Nelson
Muntz, ?Ha Ha?.
Good luck with your site. I recommend selling or advertising radar
detectors to cover your costs."
"My family and I live in Bristol Va. We use to go every weekend to
City or Kingsport for family night out where we would purchase
a movie, and maybe do a little shopping. Now we avoid TN, and spend
dollars in VA. Hope they make enough off of the cameras, to make up
difference in loss sales tax revenue."
"I just read the comments on your site. I love it! Apparently my
doing 56 mph on his way to work at 6 am and I got sent a ticket
because my name is on the car. I did not pay the ticket. I filled
out a notarized form that
said I wasn't driving the car and sent a "Professional nasty"
letter voicing my opinion of Bluff City's scameras. At this time
the ticket hasn't been reissued in the proper name. If they are
going to put it against my credit, that's
fine, can't ruin it anymore than it already is and now that my
unemployed we sure don't have 90.00 to just hand over. I think it
ridiculous that they put cameras up in this area. Instead of
grabbing speeders it causes people to impede traffic by slowing down
to under 45 mph. Also, not
sure who is aware but the camera doesn't take your picture until
you go over 54 mph."
"Hello from North Carolina!!
I'm so happy to see your creative protest and the fruits of your
on your new website! I too was a victim of the cameras - but it was
red light camera. Not only was the ticket bogus (I was through the
when it was yellow) but the city didn't even offer a way to appeal
ticket. Your penalty for nonpayment? Not being able to register your
vehicle for the next year - no ifs ands or buts. Got us by the
Unlawful and dastardly. The sad thing is that they have everyone
into believing that they are helpless and that to "rock the boat" is
get thrown in jail or worse. It takes citizens like you and me to
up and say "this is not right, and we won't stand for it." No matter
bullying, no matter the pressure, we will triumph!!"
Anyway, just wanted to say keep up the good work and offer a story to
A friend received a speeding ticket via a camera. The fine was fifty
dollars. Our friend decided it was a bogus ticket and since the ticket
was a Xerox copy, he sent in a monopoly $50 bill. The bill was sent back
with another copy of the ticket. The next time our friend paid the
ticket with a Xerox color copy of a $50 US bill. The Xerox was returned
with another copy of the ticket along with a Xerox copy of handcuffs.
Our friend ended up paying the ticket with a real $50 to avoid the real
handcuffs. He was actually speeding, so he didn't want to get arrested.
Keep up the great work, and make those lazy (warranted comment since
they were obviously too lazy to renew their domain!) cops work hard for
their money. So hard for their money! Maybe have an auction to sell off
the domain name and use the proceeds to get the cameras taken down?
Best of luck, and perhaps a seat on the city council is in your future?"
"good work sir. props from OH!"
"Congrats on making Bluff PD look silly. They had their website
wonder if they put a APB out on it. Tell Andy and Barney that Otis
the moonshine and Floyd thinks his comb was stolen."
"Six cities that were caught shortening yellow light times for
League City, Texas refunds 1740 red light camera tickets after being
caught with illegally short yellow times
Collier Country, Florida. Math tutor uses numbers to fight red light
California red light camera site with lots of good info for fighting
I think ANY city that installs speed or red light cameras that does
that accidents have dropped are just doing it for the money.
Sacramento, CA was a big offender several years ago. They installed
cameras under the the guise of reducing accidents at a few bad
intersections but failed to adjust the length
of the yellow or have both directions turn red. It used to be the
home of one
of the worst intersections in the country (Fair Oaks Boulevard and
How long did it take them to install cameras at that intersection? 9
You managed not only to get you point heard but also let it heard
The Netherlands (Europe)"
I read about you buying the website from a news source in Canada and
wanted to tell you "GOOD FOR YOU!"
"You show those cops who's boss. Enough is enough with this revenue
Cheers to you friend!"
"Respect the speed limit and no money will be taken from your
"Im overjoyed to find out about your effort, and your successes!! Good for you. I wish you continued success in sticking it to the man... for we all know that "the man" has become too big for his britches. And it is high time for all of the American Public to remind the law enforcement employees that... they work
for us!! They are our employees!! Their jobs exist for the sole purpose of
"Serving and Protecting Us" !!!
How did it happen??... that one day a while ago, someone decided that it was
"Us Against Them" ?? Is it because corruption is just an inherrent part of
any power based organization?? Something happened, I dont know what...but
there was a tipping point, when the local cops decided that they werent on our sides anymore?? They decided that "we" were the enemy?? They decided that
when they went out on the street... they were "going hunting", and their
bosses expected them to come home after they "bagged their limit", and made
the money to support their organization. What the heck happened? I dont
know. But I know for dang sure that I dont like it !!! Not at all. I am
angry as hell about it. And Im not going to take it anymore!!
Law Enforcement has become a politically corrupt institution. We honestly
cannot trust most of the men in blue. That is a sad fact, but it is true.
And that is why I want to mention another issue to you, an issue that is
common and similar to what you are fighting with in Bluff City, TN... "law
enforcement for profits c/o their hired contractors who set up intersection
cameras for the sole purpose of bringing in profits"---the corruption is so
obvious, it is hardly worth the debate.
What I want to mention is this... over here in Texas, we are dealing with a
related issue that just really chaps me.
And what is happening here is so much more perverce and corrupt... I dare say
that you should be ashamed for complaining about "intersection cameras", when
there are so much worse attrocities going on. Texas used to be a strong and
proud state, but not anymore. Our entire state has been invaded by
Kalifornians. Those idiots from Kalifornia ruined their own state so badly,
that they had to leave to find a better place to live, and so most of them
moved here to Texas, so that they could ruin our state too. Just pisses me
off about all these new neighbors of mine!!
The Chief of Police in Austin...guess where he is from?...right, you got
Well here is the detailed complaint of mine... The Fourth Amendment standing
against Unreasonable Search and Seizure... forget about it!! The New Society
taking over in Texas has decided that we do not have any Constitutional Rights anymore. First of all, let me say that I understand and agree that drunken
driving is a horrible thing. BUT... the New Society has written new laws here in Texas where... some counties/ ie some local district attorneys have OK'd
the local law enforcement to abuse our Constitutional Rights. You get stopped by a cop; he accuses you of driving drunk; you gracefully disagree with him
and refuse the "illegal breathalizer"; and so he says... your ass is mine
bitch, and he drags you down to the local precinct, straps you down physically against your own physical efforts, and jambs a danged needle in your arm and
draws blood from your body, for his legal purposes of proving his prosecution
of you; of protecting him from allegations of false imprisonment and
What happened?? When in the heck did it happen, that local cops got the right
to hog tie you and draw your blood, just to prove their case?? And Im not
talking about taking you to a local hospital for a doctor or a nurse to do
this medical procedure... the jack-booted-thugs do it themselves, down in the
dark and dirty confines of their stinking jail.
Does this seem right to you? I didnt think so! Let us look at the big
picture, of losing our rights, all over this country, in so many little ways.
In little ways they slowly take our rights away, slowly, one by one. It is so gradual that we dont notice our freedoms being stripped from us, until we are
such complete slaves to their system, that we will be unable to fight back.
We should all wake up; we should all be frightened; and we should all get so
danged mad that we will finally start to fight back!!! The only way they will get my blood, is if I am beaten completely unconscious...I will fight them to
the end, until the lights go out!! The only way they will get my gun, is from my dead cold hands!! The only way that they will steal my Constitutional
Rights however... is not just up to me... it is up to us... they do it with
corrupt and illegal manipulation knowing that most American Citizens wont
actually revolt against them. SURPRISE!!!! The Voting Public care of the Tea Party is getting ready to Revolt and kick them all out of office this next
election... not just the Democrats; not just the Republicans... ALL OF THEM... A CLEAN SWEEP OF THE WHOLE CORRUPT SYSTEM !!!!
So, let's roll... let us get to the voting polls this next time. Let us be
Call me Ironclad, but let me quote one of our founding fathers... "Government
is instituted for the common good; for the protection, safety, prosperity and
happiness of the people; and not for the profit, honor or private interest of
any one man, family or class of men; therefore, the people alone have an
incontestable, unalienable and indefeasible right to institute government; and to reform, alter or totally change that said government, when their
protection, safety, prosperity and happiness require it." ...John Adams, 1780
"as both a fellow american, and a computer nerd, i have to commend
your actions. ganking the website out from under those pigs was an
awesome move. im sick of
the traffic cameras, i live in arlington, tx, they have been
popping up pretty
steadily. it was a few at first, they even made the news when they
but now there are so many that every one just expects one at every
ridiculous. its just another step toward a fascist police state.
the awesomeness that this website represents."
Congratulations on the legal takeover of the Bluff City PD website. Some
are complaining about your actions, though I find irony in this. Just
something is done legally, doesn't make it right. While that can be
your website, that likewise can be said about the cameras. DO NOT GIVE
BLUFF PD THEIR WEBSITE BACK! At least not until the cameras come down.
To the "as long as your not speeding you have nothing to worry about"
you are sheep. Your freedom can only be maintained by the exertions of
better than you. I was doing 45 mph in a 45 mph zone with a speed
camera. A car passed by me and the camera doing close to 60 mph. Now
I'll assume for the sake of argument that the other car got a ticket.
But so did I. I WAS NOT SPEEDING
YET I GOT A TICKET. Nothing to worry about huh? The radar records the
speed at any given time. Once the camera goes off, it's up to a
person to determine who was speeding in the picture that was taken. I
there's more than 1 car that could be the culprit, they give them all
and let them fight it out in a court of law if they so choose - a court
that isn't on the side of the public on this matter. Nothing for sheep
to worry about I suppose.
For those who dislike the law, remember your basic rights. You have the
right to petition. Use it. Here in Phoenix, we have a petition going for
a statewide ban on these cameras. I have signed it and I will be voting
the cameras out in
November. For the sheep, remember this - if you're not doing anything
they will change the laws until you are. You have much to fear if you
your economic freedom isn't in danger. We are citizens. We are voters.
not piggybanks to be plundered in cases of government mismanagement of
money they already take from us."
"I enjoyed looking at your sight. The comment that you
foolishly to grind an axe had to be written by an
idiot. It is not the
money but the principle. I received a ticket and was
not the driver.
The presumption of guilt/liabilty is
unlawful and evidence of an organized and intentional
effort to use a
politcal office/organization for purposes of
What was helpful on the site was the infor that the
violation is a
civil matter. The rules for how to approach civil v
admistrative courts is different for each level. I
plan to fight this
matter on a number of levels. It is a matter of
principle and even if I
lose I will make them earn their $90.00. I have a
background in law
enforcement and 40 years of experience as a civil and
investigator and I am really pissed off.
I have amassed a good deal of research on how to deal
with this matter
and I am looking for playmates to be part of a full
scale effort to
deal with this unlawful process. Interested in
taking part? Mostly it
would be in taking motions to the clerk and getting
them stamped for
date recieved and have them put into the file/record.
Motions will include but not be limited to:
1) Request a new judge due to "Conflict of Interest".
a municipal court for Bluff City. The judge is an
agent or employee of
bluff city and hence has a built in prejudice that
would not allow a
fair and impartial hearing.
2) Motion to request a common law trial by jury.
3)Motion to produce specific information on the type
and nature of the
alleged violation including all applicable and
resolutions and public laws.
4) a motion for a judicial determination as to
whether this court is a
court of appropriate jurisdiction for a civil action.
5)There is an issue of "standing" which has to do
with who may lawfully
initiate a suit. If this is civil then this is a
suit and for a person
to have standing they must be injured as a matter of
law. Show me the
injured person? I have a right to cross examine the
source of the
complaint. I doubt that a camera has any standing.
6) If this is a civil matter then I am entitled to a
verified copy of
the complaint and the associated information, notes
and other documents
7) motion to vacate any plea entered by the court by
default of not
paying the violation. I don't need anyone to enter a
plea for me and
cannot even consider what to do until a proper
complaint in received
8)Evidence that the setting of this or any other
speed limit is a
lawful action. Federal and State law require there
be an engineering
report done to validate the setting of any speed
limit. No report, no
legitimate speed zone, no violation. Demand that the
produce the required report. Not producing it is
prima facia evidence
that the speed limit is in violation of both state
and federal law and
thus null and void.
9) Motion to have presented the contracts, notes and
between Bluff City and the provider of the camera and
service needed to determine if the City is an agent
of the Contracted
Corporation or the Corporation is an agent of the
city. If this is a
civil action then I will enjoin this corporation.
10) motion to produce certification of both the radar
unit and the
certification of the charging officer.
11) Since this a civil proceedure then I can send
interrogatories, as well as to his chief, the mayor
and the city coucil
members questioning a broad range of issues and
factors. That alone
could take each and every one of them hours to
there is a lot more I am working on that are all
valid defences. If
you or anyone else your know would be interested in
taking materials to the clerk of the court.for date
perhaps gathering some other information. There
would be not expense
or liabilty that would apply. Look forward to
hearing from you."
"Congratulations on "fighting City Hall"
This made the news in Washington DC, on our ALL NEWS Radio Station WTOP.
Keep up the GOOD WORK.
We are becoming a RED LIGHT CAMERAS and SPEED CAMERAS area of the county
Mark Anderson, Berwyn Heights, MD (suburb of Washington DC)"
"I was driving my mother's car through that area twice in the
same week and did
not realize that they had cameras "on duty", but I did slow down
because I knew in the past that the BFPD did patrol it. Well my
mother received two tickets in the mail for 56 in a 45 several
weeks after the fact. We paid them, however
neither one of us or our families will ever spend another penny
in Bluff City,
Piney Flats or Piney Bluff, whatever they call themselves now.
several baseball games in their town because they were on the
schedule, but I
wouldn't even buy a thing from their concessions stand because
of this and
encouraged others to do the same. Shame on them for fee grabbing
pass through because they have no industry or population to
pitiful excuse for a town. So please encourage others to
"BOYCOTT PINEY BLUFF"
in all aspects, let's put the squeeze on them. Drive around it
or back roads even if it takes longer and definitely don't spend
there. The entire area can dry up and blow away, the mayor, the
the police department and even the citizens of that area for
putting up with
"Just wanted to say a heartfelt "Thank You!" for putting up this
site. I have a
really hard time seeing the traffic cams as anything but a way
to further tax
the already overburdened citizens. Especially when the notice I
mailed from a company in Arizona, listing Bluff City TN as the
violation, asking me to remit payment to a separate entity in
Ohio. I truly
thought it was a scam when I received my notice and called Bluff
City PD. After being passed to a supervisor and then, supposedly
the Captain of Bluff City PD, I asked for the Captain's name. He
replied, "Captain". I grew up nearby to
Bluff City. It truly seems to me as if the "little small town
trying to overexert their authority so they can feel like "big
Thanks again! Were I still eligible to vote in TN, you or anyone
endorsed would certainly have my vote. Thank you, thank you,
Please post a link to my scamera blog. I testified before the
Transportation Summer Study Committee for engineering solutions
surveillance cameras in October 2009.
I'll be out of town for a few days, but will be most a lot of
information when Iget back.
"Right on !!!!
You made my day ( I know... I need to get out more)
I use an iPhone application named Trapster.
"I think it's awesome that you nabbed the website of the police
I think its absolutely hilarious, but I also think you should
give it back
in a gesture of goodwill. Our police do a lot of crappy things
but they also save a lot of lives. Be cool, give it back. Let
me know if
you nabb any other sites. It's hella funny!!"
First though, a THANK YOU, for all the officers for standing up
and taking our
safety as a career.
do you remember the Wild West of traffic tickets,
the police would role out a warrant
a squad of police would arrest people for a traffic ticket or not
a whole lot of debters prison loving, power hungry judges,
enjoying the idea of
they justified this hurt by saying that these SCOFFLAWS DESERVED
happened to them
they justified this hurt by saying that the government needs the
BOTH IDEAS violate the Constitution at the state and federal
( besides, name calling and chastizing are unhealthy and
please continue the good march to encourage an informed and
force that abides by the three EEE's of law and police.
"It's California but it's a start! Read an article about you and
your site and
happened to see this one as well.
Appellate courts in California are becoming increasingly upset at
the conduct of cities and photo enforcement vendors. On May 21, a
three-judge panel of the
California Superior Court, Appellate Division, in Orange County
tossed out a
red light camera citation in the city of Santa Ana in a way that
question the legitimacy of the way red light camera trials are
statewide. Previously, a string of brief, unpublished decisions
illegal contracts, insufficient notice and other deficiencies.
This time, however, the appellate division produced a ten-page
ruling and certified it for publication, setting a precedent that
applies to the county's three million
"This appeal involves an issue far too often presented to this
court, namely the admissibility of evidence and the statutory
compliance with the procedures
employed by several municipalities in this county in what have
come to be known as 'photo enforcement' citations," the unanimous
At trial, attorney R. Allen Baylis objected to the admission of
the red light
camera photographs because the city had failed to lay a proper
the evidence. The court agreed
"Good job on your new website! We just lost our traffic light
cameras here in
Cleveland TN because they were losing money on them! They said
it wasn't to
raise money, but when it didn't net them any increased revenues,
quick to pull them! Keep up the good work!"
"There has repeatedly been a big fight about these travesties of
Duncanville, Texas as well. One councilman based his re-election
on it. He was, of course hauled out of the council chamber and
the Mayor's "Storm Trooper" police, even though he was well
rights to voice protest as a councilman. He lost the
re-election, and the
fact that the Mayor's, (David Green), campaign is ALWAYS
significantly, by the camera company, doesn't seem to get
Can you say "Conflict of interest"? Can you say "Bribery"?
These things need to be outlawed at the state and federal level.
I resent the fact that I get the Mayor's mail on occasion, since
I have the
same name. I wonder if I can use this to my advantage? :o) You
think, Brian! WELL DONE!!!"
"I have lived in Bluff City all my life. Bluff City Police Dept.
been made fun of. These officers respond to the same calls as
officers" and put their lives on the line everyday. One officer
credited with saving two lives in the past few months, one was an
lady that was laying in the snow that he found while on routine
the other was the lady involved in a hostage situation in Piney
had responded to assist Sullivan Co Sheriff's Dept. and got the
while the deputie distracted the armed suspect. As for the
cameras, I am
tired of hearing people complain about them. I work in Johnson
City and my
wife works in Piney Flats, so we pass by them several times per
don't like them either, but as long as you are not speeding, you
won't get a
ticket. If you are speeding, you are breaking the law and
deserve a ticket.
There is no one to blame but yourself. If I get caught on
someone, I guess I can start a website bashing the police
complain about how unfair it is that I am being charged because a
took my picture. I'm sure I can get by with it if I follow in
footsteps. Finally, the media is making you out to be a hero,
which you are
not. you are a whiny baby that got caught breaking the law, and
to pay the penalty. Maybe you should do some ride alongs with
City PD, or any other law enforcement agency, and see what they
everyday to make your life safer. Maybe then you will change
your mind. I
bet you could even get your picture made sitting in a patrol car
for this site. It helps provide information about how government is
continuing to intrude further into our lives. The purpose of the cameras, as
is the purpose of most of the laws that are enforced, is not about public
safety, but about generating income for the government. As their budgets
become tighter, they will look for more ways to take money from the public. I
drive the subject section of roadway almost daily and have never seen an
accident there or had any problem with speeders. Perhaps they will drop the
speed limit down to 20 mph so they can issue more speeding tickets and
generate more income. The Bluff City Police Department are fools for letting
their domain name expire. But, I'm not surprised. I knew the current Police
Chief when he was younger and he had no work ethic and was very limited in
intelligence. I guess that makes for a perfect cop, huh. If he didn't have a
job as a cop, he would not be qualified to do anything. What a
fool. It seems like their should be an IQ and health requirement for police
(probably 90% of them are obese). Police departments, as well as other
governmental bodies, will do anything to keep their jobs and salaries secure,
especially during the tough economic times that are affecting the ones of us
that work in the "real world". The ones who actually have to do something
productive in order to get paid. At least Bluff City isn't as bad as Johnson
City. Johnson City has probably over a dozen cameras either active or planned. Also, and this is my favorite, cops in Johnson City will actually stand at
intersections and walk up to your car and look inside to see if you have your
seatbelt on. I always wear my seatbelt and think that it is foolish for
someone not to wear their seatbelt, but why should the taxpayers have to pay
the salaries of cops to do this? All of it is for income generation for the
cops. Nothing more. Thanks again for the site, more
power to you and the people!"
I enjoyed reading the comments and information on your website and hope that
Tennessee will ban these money-makers. I live near Minneapolis and a few
years back the City of Minneapolis tried red light cameras too. It was found
that the cameras did red-light runners resulting in fewer t-bone crashes in
the intersections. However, these same intersections saw an increase in
It was eventually overturned by the Minnesota Supreme Court as
unconstitutional on several points including the fact that to presume the
owner was the driver "eliminates the presumption of innocence and shifts the
burden of proof from that required by the rules of criminal procedure". See
link for summary of Supreme Court ruling
Thanks for scoring one for the little guys!"
"Careful reading of the camera ticket I got for speeding would lead me to
believe that I would be paying the "fine" to a contractor with the City of
Cedar Rapids and not to the city. I assume the contractor pays a
"commission" to the city for the use of the streets. All things considered,
I do not plan to pay the fine and look forward to watch the proceedings that may or
may not follow."
wanted to tell you that i live near springfield, missouri and several
months ago a former highway patrolman sue the city of springfield over traffic camaras and won. it was determined in court that these camaras are
unconstitutional and the last i heard the allready money strapped city was
waiting to find out if they would have to pay back nearly $800,000 to people
who had been fined for running red lights. in my opinion the same goes for
seatbelt laws. i know seatbelts help in some situations but the state run it
through as a secondary offense and let everyone get used to that then changed
it to a stopable offense. the gov. is rather sneaky like that.
just thought i would let you know that missouri courts ruled traffic
camaras unconstitutional at least for springfield.
"I live in Bluff City. I've never gotten a ticket at the camera. But up until
they put in the camera I never felt like my life was in danger on that stretch of road. I drive past the camera at least once a day during heavy traffic and
it never fails that someone slows down to 35mph because they are scared of the camera. In fact, today I was almost rear ended because someone slowed down too much. People speed there- they speed everywhere. We can't put cameras up on
every patch of road. Its ridiculous and not very safe. On top of that- whose
to say the person in the car owns the car? Whose to say they didn't rig the
camera to over estimate car's speed? On top of that, its an electronic
device.. it will stop doing its job correctly and with no human interaction
who will ever know its broken?
Speeding tickets are necessary- but they need to be done safely and fairly."
Anyway, I just wanted to respond to a few of the commenters. Especially the guy whining about speeding. Everyone speeds. Everyone. It is just a matter of how
often and by how much.
I don't feel this site is disrespectful to the officers. Its just a creative
And to idiot saying that "you spent more than 90 dollars on site... I guess he
hasn't shopped for domains since 1985.
Traffic cameras are just lazy policing and are dangerous for the drivers and
bikers on the road."
"I too live out of state and got a 56 mph in a 45 mph with a $90 fine in
that area. I slowed down when I saw the sign and stayed slow until I thought
it was over. I only went to that area to look purchasing an item. I will
never shop in that area again and like others will drive another direction
to avoid that area. I can't fight the ticket - I remember trying to stay in
compliance because I was told it was a speed trap. I am shocked I was going
more than 10 miles over the speed limit and doubly shocked to get a ticket
in the mail."
"Glad you got this site!!! Don't give it up man. Here in Arizona, one of two
states that put speed cameras on interstates, they are coming down this
year!!! Governor says they shouldn't have them to raise money. they also
cause traffic to back up, as everybody slows down for them 1/4 mile out and
then speeds back up when past them. People are often rear ended. Here in Az
though, the ticket arrives in the mail, if you don't pay it in 30 days or so,
the issuing agency has to serve you by a process server, out of state folks
are ok! Corporate vehicles are safe also! Can't fine a corporation for
speeding. If after 45 days you aren't served the ticket is dismissed!
Woohooo, My only ticket in 15 years was in Scottsdale, 73 in a 55. everybody
was goin' that fast and I got a ticket, I carried it in my trunk for a few
months and the ticket was dropped. These things are unsafe and unethical, the ones in bluff city will come down eventually, they
all are all around the country. I'd like to find safety statistics for the
area those cameras serve. Also when an emergency vehicle passes them and their picture is taken are they dismissed? If so how is it determined the vehicle
was on an actual emergency versus riding with ligths on. No siren? needed as the cameras can't hear.
good luck with this,,,,i hope kingsports pd site comes open soon! lol"
"I'm surprised the ACLU hasn't been involved due to the inherent nature of red
light cameras being unfair. I have a friend who is wealthy and is amused by
the red light cameras. He worries very little about the cameras because he can afford the fines since they are just for revenue and there are no points to
the driver's license. The poor suffer once more!"
We live on the NC border, so it is about an hour to either Harley store in JC
or Bristol. We used to get a group together and ride over , eat lunch, spend
some money on gas and clothes/parts, etc. We now ride to Wilkesboro or
Hickory, that's a little over an hour, but no speed cameras/money rackets to
"Hi Brian, I live in Arizona and I was thinking of how things were
back in the old days of the wild west. Back then the bad guys would
hide their identity, surprise you, and steal your money. Today the
good guys hide behind badges, surprising you, and steal your money.
And they say crime is down!
Here in Arizona when you call the Arizona Department of Revenue
office (602-542-5551) there is a recording that says, "Please
understand, by law the department is not bound by my verbal advise."
Let me see, we call the Arizona Department of Revenue to talk to a
professional about a tax problem because we can't make heads or tails
out of their bureaucratic tax laws and their experts don't want to be
held responsible! Or maybe they can't understand them ether?
Sincerely, Al Turner"
"I just wanted to comment on your immaturity of gaining control of the police
website regarding the cameras that take pictures of people breaking the law.
I do not find you funny at all and it might be time for you to grow up.
Were you speeding????? Have you ever been speeding through residential,
business, interstate highways???? I don't know if you were really supposed
to get this ticket, but there are a lot of other people in your city that
should get tickets. Citizens don't want to pay for more police officers and
when they try to catch people who break the law and put people in danger,
cameras help. We have them here and they have certainly slowed down drivers
and made them aware that there are other people on the road with them.
No, I don't live in your city and with idiots like you, feel safe that I
will never visit or live there. I just don't like people who disrespect the
law and the officers who sometimes put their life on the line for people in
your city. Grow up and give back the website to the people who protect you
and remember what goes around, comes around."
"About two years ago I got cited for a traffic camera offense and the city of
Alpharetta GA sent me a ticket in the mail. An internet link to a video of my offense was included in the correspondence. I watched the video. The light
turns red while my tires are on the stop line and so I thought I'd have a good chance at arguing it in court. I went to court and the judge wasn't hearing
it. He began to lecture me on the dangers of running a red light and how
these lights make the interesection safer. What a crock of bologna. Studies
show that MORE accidents happen at intersections that are camera enforced. I
paid my fine, with some grubling, but much animosity. Because of this single
$70 fine, I will NEVER ever ever contribute donations to ANY police station,
or phone solicitor. If the police want more money tell them to camera enforce ALL intersections and reduce the timing of the yellow lights down to one
second. I'm sure the money will start rolling in. But, not mine, anymore.
This rotten taste in my mouth for the government will keep me from ever
opening my wallet to donate to any solicitor. Even fire departments whose
employees stand around at the intersections won't get my money ANYMORE. Thank the judge. And I'll even tell them that if asked! The courts have become
hostile to the people, and so they should not expect generosity anymore."
"Jesus. move on with your life. It's a $90 ticket.. instead, you paid more
money out of pocket to grind an axe? Learn how to spell too."
"we got rid of our camera's here in south texas"
"Great to see you're providing a public service in fighting ticket cameras.
Out here in the San Francisco Bay Area it's become a impossible parking ticket police state. SF is now considering 24/7 parking meter, & 2 hr parking limit,
enforcement across he city!
It's the anti-car revenue hungry loony progressive greenie left that's pushing
these unpopular parking ticket schemes."
"In Gallatin, TN they put the traffic cameras up a year or two ago, and
get this, they shortened the timers on the yellow light to get more
"I live in IL and see these things everywhere now. They have "caused" accidents
with the flashing mechanism that is built into the CAM. not to mention the
small business owners who have there shops anywhere near these things are
suffering. There was a suburb that had a CAM malfunction and was recording
EVERYONE that went through the intersection and were all issued summons. To
later find it was an error in there system. Why don't they let the cops just
do what there trained to do. Or are they taking to many coffee breaks and not "creating" enough revenue for there municipalities, counties or state?
I wish you luck in your pursuit of having these monotonous, revenue creating,
court crowding and accident making devises removed once and for all."
"Hah! Just noticed your website and how you got it, which I saw on
www.onenewsnow.com. This is a HOOT!
My dad got a ticket on SR 79 in Newark, Ohio because of one of these
devices. The darn things drove business away from that area until
everyone got together and voted that idiot mayer out for it, and it
serves him right! The camera was taken down quickly. Imagine ticketing
someone when you have no proof who was driving the vehicle, let alone
whether they were doing so legally or not! I think everyone should get
rid of ANYONE in government that has anything to do with these things.
If they were going to do this, they could've at least taken the picture
from the front with a view of the driver. More govt greed.
Mike in Fairfield County, Ohio
"I was driving in Kingsport behind a senior citizen when we approached a
light with a camera, the senior slowed down to a crawl way before she
to the light, and of course neither of us got through the light. These
camera's are all about money, they're not concerned about us! The
take the natural ability and skill of driving away. This little lady was
afraid she would get a ticket for something. Shame on our officials who
nothing better to do.PLUS, we are paying them. LOL. Gene Smith,
"Saw the article on the Tri-Cities.com website and really got a chuckle!
Great work. I live in Greeneville and upon returning from a fly fishing
on the S. Holston earlier in the year, learned about the speed camera
hard way. Obviously this is meant for revenue generation as opposed to
safety. Hopefully the growing trend of resentment for the cameras will
a few cities to take notice and take down the cameras. I now refuse to
in Bluff City and spend any money, which is obviously a detriment to
business, but not contributing to the city's sales tax revenue is the
way I can think to get them back for the $90 I paid on the recent
Obviously, you were a bit more creative. Hats off my friend!
"I paid ticket for going to fast through the speed trap...but you'll not get
another dime of my money nor will
anyone in Bluff City. I will drive a hundred miles out of my way. It's
a speed trap, it is not meant for safety, but to raise revenue. I can under
stand not having enough officers to cover a town of 1500.... must be diffic
ult with only eight officers. When will they ever have time to go to the do
nut shop. Lets see, 10 officers, 1500 people; 1 officer per
150 people....crime must be out of control there! Gimme a break. Let a
sk this, do you ask for forgiveness when you go to church on Sunday? The Ma
yor, city cousel, and all these policemen are crooks...that's what I think
and it will never change..live with that!"
"I am a teacher in Bristol, Virginia. I received a
citation in the mail from this wonderful police department. At the point of
time on the ticket, I was not even driving the vehicle. I was with my
mother in Elizabethton shopping and have a dated/time receipt to prove it!
Now here's my beef..... If someone else is driving your car and gets stopped
by the police, THEY get the ticket not the owner of the car....
If someone steals a car and robs a bank, THEY get arrested, not the owner of
How is it legal for BLUFF CITY to send you a citation in the mail, WHEN YOU
WERE NOT IN THE VEHICLE!!!!!
I did not pay it and plan on fighting it in court."
"I own business property in Piney Flats just 75 feet from the camera and
observed time and again that the traffic slows down at the camera and within
2 or 3 hundred yards they speed back up. When a police car used to be
present, they slowed down for a longer stretch of highway. So in my opinion
the camera has no effect on safety only on revenue. Business owners were
used as an excuse to put up the camera for safety.
Well I own over 500 feet of road frontage that houses three businesses and
no one asked me about safety issues. Very few wrecks happen on this
particular part of Piney Flats, but lets look at the records for wrecks
occurring at the 19E red light and the Tri City flea market. Come on, Bluff
City is just using the cameras for easy money. Every ninety dollar ticket
issued is less food, gas and living expenses for already stretched family
budgets. It is a terrible thing for local business. Lots of people refuse to
come to Piney Flats because of these stinking cameras, boy does it make the
out of town race fans feel welcome. Several states have ruled these speed
traps unconstitutional and several other states are working on this problem.
Questions: how often are the cameras calibrated, where does the revenue go,
how much does Bluff City keep and what is the money spent on. This is an
outrage and must be stopped. I am in favor of a class action law suite and
total accountability the elected officials in Bluff are spending not only
the speed trap money but all the tax revenue that is collected by B C from
the more than 65 small business thatnare located from the Charles Worley
bridge to the red light light in Piney Flats. Bluff City Government is
totally out of political control and everyone in the area is suffering the
effects.Piney Flats should de-annex from Bluff City, and form a new
Incorporated area that welcomes its visitors, keeps it medians mowed,
provides street lights and nice road signage and encourages new business and
presents an an attractive area for thousands of race fans, visitors to the
Piney Flats Industrial Park and all the tourist that visit this area for the
mountains and the lakes and local attractions, and take those *stinking
Jerry M. Sorrell"
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